Is Mayweather the most well-rounded fighter ever?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #241
    Originally posted by poet682006
    Fighting non-en****** and washed up names has a LOT to do with that. Stick a prime great in with him and that sort of BS will tag him with an L.

    Poet
    Funny thing poet, the prime greats, SHane, Kosta, Manny all avoided Floyd for one rreason or another. Hell, ODH had a chance to fight floyd when he was prime and he waited.

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      #242
      Originally posted by poet682006
      Still works out to a low number of punches landed regardless of the percentage. Less punches landed = less damage done to the opponent.....And the entire point of professional boxing is to damage your opponent.

      Poet
      NO its to win the fight. You don't get extra points for a KO or TKO. Every fight isn't the SUper 6.

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        #243
        Originally posted by poet682006
        The problem is that the question wasn't whether Floyd is good at what he does or not. The question was who was more well-rounded. And if you're sacrificing an important part of the game to excel at one particular thing you are NOT well rounded.

        Poet
        you work with what you got and master it! thats the name of the game, just because jordan didnt dunk as much and drive to tthe lane as much later in his career does not mean he wasnt one of the best at that time, he just worked on other parts of his game and made it work for him! floyd fights the way most people complain about because he moved up in weight and he has very brittle hands (as i do), if you have ever boxed you know that those 2 things right there are not things to play with and you have to be very careful when moving up! floyd is very well rounded, he outlands all of his opponents and decreases their workrate, he adapts to any style also. he just does not waste punches and is very selective with what he throws. but in the ortiz fight he threw more than usual meaning he has it in him. now if your argument is that because he does not throw alot of punches that makes him less of a well rounded fighter then ill just move on to the next comment and let you do it big on your island!!!!

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          #244
          Originally posted by poet682006
          Fighting non-en****** and washed up names has a LOT to do with that. Stick a prime great in with him and that sort of BS will tag him with an L.

          Poet
          Maybe but maybe not.

          Floyd is not an easy guy to whoop, as such the fight will likely end up close. Floyd is good at making his moments very clear and that is a priceless attribute in otherwise close fights.

          If they end up close of course he can lose though because it depends on what the judges see.

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            #245
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Funny thing poet, the prime greats, SHane, Kosta, Manny all avoided Floyd for one rreason or another. Hell, ODH had a chance to fight floyd when he was prime and he waited.
            Kosta was not a great and Shane and Oscar are VERY debatable (not to mention not even fighting in the same weight class when they supposedly avoided him). Pacquiao MIGHT be a great (or might not, jury's still out) but unfortunately Floyd spent as much time avoiding Pac as Pac did avoiding Floyd so both *****s and *******s can **** off and die on THAT BS.

            Poet

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              #246
              Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
              you work with what you got and master it! thats the name of the game, just because jordan didnt dunk as much and drive to tthe lane as much later in his career does not mean he wasnt one of the best at that time, he just worked on other parts of his game and made it work for him! floyd fights the way most people complain about because he moved up in weight and he has very brittle hands (as i do), if you have ever boxed you know that those 2 things right there are not things to play with and you have to be very careful when moving up! floyd is very well rounded, he outlands all of his opponents and decreases their workrate, he adapts to any style also. he just does not waste punches and is very selective with what he throws. but in the ortiz fight he threw more than usual meaning he has it in him. now if your argument is that because he does not throw alot of punches that makes him less of a well rounded fighter then ill just move on to the next comment and let you do it big on your island!!!!
              The I would suggest you get a dictionary and look up what the term "well rounded" means.

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              • The Gambler1981
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                #247
                Throwing punches is just a means to an end, if a guy can be effective in less that is a positive not a negative.

                There is something to be said for efficency

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by poet682006
                  Still works out to a low number of punches landed regardless of the percentage. Less punches landed = less damage done to the opponent.....And the entire point of professional boxing is to damage your opponent.

                  Poet
                  And the entire point of professional boxing is to damage your opponent.

                  HAVE YOU EVER READ THE ART OF WAR???? THERE ARE MULTIPLE TACTICS IN COMBAT.....

                  you know what, fk it!!!! cant get through to a guy with this attitude towards boxing... sigh!

                  zukie

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                    #249
                    Originally posted by poet682006
                    Still works out to a low number of punches landed regardless of the percentage. Less punches landed = less damage done to the opponent.....And the entire point of professional boxing is to damage your opponent.

                    Poet
                    It's not a low number of punches landed. He lands more than the average. I'm not talking about his accuracy. Obviously, he's elite there. I'm talking about the actual number of punches landed. He's above average in that aspect.

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                      #250
                      Originally posted by poet682006
                      Kosta was not a great and Shane and Oscar are VERY debatable (not to mention not even fighting in the same weight class when they supposedly avoided him). Pacquiao MIGHT be a great (or might not, jury's still out) but unfortunately Floyd spent as much time avoiding Pac as Pac did avoiding Floyd so both *****s and *******s can **** off and die on THAT BS.

                      Poet
                      So now those guys aren't great. Ok. Floyd asked ODH and SHane for fights when they were in their primes. They both refused under the too much risk, little reward scenario. Obviously, they held floyd in higher esteem then you do.

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