Is Mayweather the most well-rounded fighter ever?

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  • rambov
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    #131
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Floyd will only convince me he can be considered well rounded when he isnt lopsided.

    The day i see Floyd throw punches and not pay for it is the day i will think he is a true master. Plus he has no power. If he did he would be trying to ko people to show off.
    I don't know anyone else who is as complete as Floyd.

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    • al-Xander
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      #132
      Feather-fisted boxers are never considered well-rounded. It's so silly saying the fraud is well-rounded. If most of his fights end up in the scorecards, he's not well-rounded. I'll probably give that more to Donaire than KFC. Donaire defends, chases, and tries hard to ko his opponents. He can fight inside and out. Maynever is content in winning by UDs, thus boring fights. His fans overrate him too damn much, which is the exact reason why he thinks he's worth millions of dollars.

      Last edited by al-Xander; 02-06-2012, 11:32 AM.

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      • SWEETSCIENCE100
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        #133
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        The thing is you are making up the definition of well rounded to suit Floyd. How can you say his power is high up there, when he is a featherfisted puncher in comparison to real hard punchers?
        He might get more KO's than his power deserves but that is for other reasons other than power.

        Floyd is lopsided, he is great defensively, but he has no offense. Every offensive move he makes is from counterpunching which is his defense rather than his offense. Hes got no offensive instincts because he dont care to make a fight and to entertain.
        People who are better offensively than Floyd pay for it sometimes because of Floyds defense, rather than his offense.
        I dont see how people turn it around to be well rounded?
        Another ****** comment. Floyd has out landed each and every opponant he has faced. Do your research son. Better yet Ill do it for you. Throwing more is not always better son. If your not landing why keep throwing. You must be ****** as a ****** does..

        http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Fl...._Ricky_Hatton

        http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde...nates_pun.html





        Last edited by SWEETSCIENCE100; 02-06-2012, 11:16 AM.

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        • SWEETSCIENCE100
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          #134
          where are you hugh grant?

          Are you finish with the dumb comments?

          Did you see the punch stats of my boy mayweather jr?

          Do you understand that he throws less but lands more and always get the win?

          Whats so hard to understand son?

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          • hugh grant
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            #135
            Originally posted by The_Sandman
            Even if he does have power and throws a lot of punches, something tells me you still won't be satisfied with Floyd. Judging from your post history.
            I just dont agree people giving Floyd acclaims he dont deserve. If you say he is a great defensive fight, i agree. Well rounded is open to inerpretation.

            Why dont we just agree he is a great defensive type boxer, who dont fight that much and take long lay offs, which he calls retirements. That would be accurate and id have no problem with that.

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            • rambov
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              #136
              Science, I don't think these guys minds can be changed.

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #137
                Originally posted by New England
                uhh he's a pure boxer


                that's a definitive no


                well rounded fighters:
                ray leonard
                ray robinson
                joe louis
                ezzard charles



                floyd couldnt stop juan manuel marquez
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                Neither did Pac who fought him 3 times and hits like a truck.

                Jus saying.

                Floyd is well rounded as hell. Hes up there for sure.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100

                  Do you understand that he throws less but lands more and always get the win?
                  Yes he lands more most of the time. His opponent throws 9 punches which Floyd dodges all of them. When Floyds opponents throws the10th punch, Floyd counters and then lands one punch.
                  Doesnt make Floyd well rounded though. Even JMM said Floyd is slippery but makes no effort to fight.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 02-06-2012, 11:35 AM.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Neither did Pac who fought him 3 times and hits like a truck.

                    Jus saying.

                    Floyd is well rounded as hell. Hes up there for sure.

                    anybody with minimal knowledge can name 10 WW's who would take marquez head off at the shoulders, especially the 35+ year old version.
                    sorry, but you're looking at a weak WW era and you dont even know it.


                    pacquiao is 100% an atg p4p puncher

                    but to say that he or floyd have ATG power or finishing ability at 147 is laughable

                    or, more appropriately, to say that floyd's inability to stop marquez in a WW fight is something that can be swept under the table because "nobody has stopped marquez," is laughable

                    plenty of WW's would have stopped marquez in that situation
                    floyd couldnt, because he's not a finisher or a big puncher.


                    floyd's flaws:
                    he's a modest puncher
                    he's not very agressive
                    he's got a low work rate in terms of the punches he throws (he makes up for it with the moves he uses defensively, but he's not a high volume puncher and that is a weakness,)
                    his chin is no better than good
                    and physically his strength is only about average.


                    that's not a well rounded fighter by any stretch in the historical sense
                    if you want to say he's one of the most well rounded fighters out there today you can go ahead, but to say that he's among the most well rounded of all time is something to laugh at.

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                    • SWEETSCIENCE100
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Yes he lands more most of the time. His opponent throws 9 punches which Floyd dodges all of them. When Floyds opponents throws the10th punch, Floyd counters and then lands one punch.
                      Doesnt make Floyd well rounded though. Even JMM said Floyd is slippery but makes no effort to fight.
                      Dude you should just stop typing. Your making no sense.

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