Felix Trinidad an ATG at Welterweight?

[turbotime]

@ Turbotime, what were you even thinking?

That maybe tito's run at 147 isn't all that it's cracked up to be?

Take for instance Oscar's run in THREE years at 147, compared to Tito's run over almost a DECADE -

Oscar - Rivera, Camacho, Chavez, Mosley, Trinidad, Quartey, Whitaker, Carr

Tito - Camacho, Campas, Blocker, Carr, Whitaker, Oscar

[turbotime]

Because, he has wins over the likes of Blocker, Camacho, Campas, Carr, Whitaker, and Oscar.

And, he's around the top 20-25 ATG's at WW.

Can't compare that to Bute resume man.

Those were good wins for Tito, but not compared to who he could have had wins over (Lopez, Page, Quartey, P4P#1 Whitaker, Rivera, etc)

[FJRod]

TS here u go son......I don't think Tito can crack the Top 10 Welters but he is def all time great In the Weight and Overall.

[turbotime]

TS here u go son......I don't think Tito can crack the Top 10 Welters but he is def all time great In the Weight and Overall.

I don't dispute Tito is a great but his work at 147 is going to resemble Bute's at 168 if Bute beats Froch and Ward.

[BoxingGenius27]

That maybe tito's run at 147 isn't all that it's cracked up to be?

Take for instance Oscar's run in THREE years at 147, compared to Tito's run over almost a DECADE -

Oscar - Rivera, Camacho, Chavez, Mosley, Trinidad, Quartey, Whitaker, Carr

Tito - Camacho, Campas, Blocker, Carr, Whitaker, Oscar

What don't you understand about the fact that nothing Bute has done so far even remotely deserve's to be mentioned with the like's of Trinidad at WW?

I don't care who you're saying Trinidad could've fought. No, just no.

You are really showing your boxing true colors right now.

[turbotime]

What don't you understand about the fact that nothing Bute has done so far even remotely deserve's to be mentioned with the like's of Trinidad at WW?

I don't care who you're saying Trinidad could've fought. No, just no.

You are really showing your boxing true colors right now.

And what does that say about you? So far in this thread all you have done was make personal attacks about posters without any specifics whatsoever as far as the topic, Trinidad or his resume itself.

Seems like you don't know what happened in the '90s at all, and are content on joining in with the status quo without any knowledge.

[BoxingGenius27]

And what does that say about you? So far in this thread all you have done was make personal attacks about posters without any specifics whatsoever as far as the topic, Trinidad or his resume itself.

Seems like you don't know what happened in the '90s at all, and are content on joining in with the status quo without any knowledge.

Cool story...

But the fact that you compared Bute to Trinidad at WW is self explanatory..

I don't even know why Rosales actually put time into explaining to you why you're wrong.

This is a joke thread that deserves joke answers.

If I really wanted too, I would eat this thread up with facts... But I won't waist my time posting serious answers on something so silly.

[NAPO]

He was DUCKED for years before Oscar step up the plate.

Search for it. Tito was always looking for the best out there. There is a reason why he had to fight IBF rank fighters because nobody wanted to fight him.

[JAB5239]

Anyone who claims that Tito is not an ATG is a fool. Tito fought everyone and knocked out most of them. Tito was once the most feared WW. Bute ani't **** COMPARED TO TITO. This fool Boxing Genuis doesnt know **** about boxing and im gonna run him away from boxing scene by exposing his ignorance of the sport! Tito was a ko artist, he always came to fight, in shape and focus, he could give and take. Didn't matter what he hit you with it hurt! Every shot was a power shot, even the jab! He should have never left welter weight. Very very good boxer. Bute and Tito should never be mentioned in the same sentence. Bute is garbage compared to THE GREAT FELIX TITO TRINADAD!



1990
Mar. 10 -- Angel Romero, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
Apr. 7 -- Israel Ponce, Miramar, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
June 21 -- William Lopez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
July 27 -- Omar Alegre, Capo D'Oralndo, Italy, TKO 5
Sep. 6 -- Jose Vilarino, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
Oct. 3 -- Valentin Ocasio, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 6
Nov. 13 -- Luis Perez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 2


1991
Mar. 13 -- Noe Rivera, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
May 1 -- Felix Vazquez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 3
June 21 -- Manuel Soles, Miami, Florida, TKO 5
July 10 -- Darren McGrew, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 10
Oct. 25 -- Lorenzo Bouie, Miami, Florida, KO 1
Dec. 6 -- Jake Rodriguez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 10


1992
May 3 -- Raul Gonzalez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 4
July 18 -- Joe Alexander, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 1
Oct. 3 -- Alberto Cortes, Paris, France, TKO 3


1993
Feb. 13 -- Henry Hughes, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
Feb. 20 -- Pedro Aguirre, Mexico City, Mexico, KO 4
May 8 -- Colin Tomlinson, Condado, Puerto Rico, KO 1
June 19 -- Maurice Blocker, San Diego, California, KO 2
(Captured IBF welterweight title)
Aug. 6 -- Luis Garcia, Bayamon, Puerto Rico, KO 1
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Oct. 23 -- Anthony Stephens, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, KO 10
(Retained IBF welterweight title)


1994
Jan. 29 -- Hector Camacho, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 17 -- Yory Boy Campas, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Dec. 10 -- Oba Carr, Monterrey, Mexico, TKO 8
(Retained IBF welterweight title)


1995
Apr. 8 -- Roger Turner, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 2
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Nov. 18 -- Larry Barnes, Atlantic City, New Jersey, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)


1996
Feb. 10 -- Rodney Moore, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
May 18 -- Freddie Pendleton, Las Vegas, Nevada, KO 5
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 7 -- Ray Lovato, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 6
(Retained IBF welterweight title)


1997
Jan. 11 -- Kevin Leushing, Nashville, Tennessee, TKO 3
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Aug. 23 -- Troy Waters, New York City, KO 1


1998
Apr. 3 -- Mahenge Zulu, Bayamon, Puerto Rico, KO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)


1999
Feb. 20 -- Pernell Whitaker, New York, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
May 29 -- Hugo Pineda, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 18 -- Oscar de la Hoya, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
(Captured WBC welterweight title)


2000
Mar. 3 -- David Reid, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
(Captured WBA super welterweight title)
July 22 -- Mamadou Thiam, Miami, Florida, TKO 3
(Retained WBA super welterweight title)
Dec. 2 -- Fernando Vargas, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 12
(Retained WBA super welterweight title)
(Captured IBF junior middleweight title)


2001
May 12 -- William Joppy, New York, New York, TKO 5
(Captured WBA middleweight title)
Sept. 29 -- Bernard Hopkins, New York, New York, TKO by 12
(Lost WBA middleweight title)
(For WBC and IBF middleweight title)


2002
May 11 -- Hacine Cherifi, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 4


2004
Oct. 2 -- Ricardo Mayorga, New York, NY, TKO 8


2005
May 14 -- Winky Wright, Las Vegas, NV, L 12 *RECAP*


2006
*INACTIVE*

2007
*INACTIVE*

2008
Jan. 19 -- Roy Jones Jr., New York, NY, L 12 *RECAP*

Show me your top 10 list with Tito and I'll show you exactly why he doesn't belong in it.

[SWEETSCIENCE100]

Show me your top 10 list with Tito and I'll show you exactly why he doesn't belong in it.

Name one WW that Tito would not be a complete problem for. He had the tools to beat anybody. Im not saying he would but he definitly could compete with any champion in the history of boxing on any given night. He had ONE of the best left hooks in boxing. He was very durable, decent power snapping jab, and a crisp right cross. Just any body was not gonna beat him. He made a prime Oscar run for 5 rounds and give the fight away. If you know boxing then you know Oscar was never a runner, but Tito sure made him run like a track star. Don't take my word, just look for yourself!!