Felix Trinidad an ATG at Welterweight?

[BoxingGenius27]

You cant use numbers to decide ATG's. It boils down to opinion alone whether its resume or skills. The only numeric part is wins and losses.

Numbers are the only objective way of determining.

We could have two arguments.

An objective and subjective one.

For example, subjectively speaking, I think Fighter A is an ATG. Here's why...........

Or you can say, objectively speaking, Fighter B is an ATG. Here's why.....

BTW, did you check out the algorithym and how it adds up?

[Einstien]

I don't understand why Trinidad never got as much **** as Margarito for getting caught with illegal hand wraps. Trinidad is prob not an ATG because he was a dirty fighter and would do anything to win a fight..

Because Gauze and Plaster are two different things....go ahead and try and patch up holes in your house with gauze, see what happens..lol

Many fighters have been made to rewrap because other trainers didnt like what they saw, which include Pacquiao,Klitschko, Arguello and Hoya.

Plaster is something else.

[studentofthegam]

Numbers are the only objective way of determining.

We could have two arguments.

An objective and subjective one.

For example, subjectively speaking, I think Fighter A is an ATG. Here's why...........

Or you can say, objectively speaking, Fighter B is an ATG. Here's why.....

BTW, did you check out the algorithym and how it adds up?

No I didnt check it out but I will. I just feel like its impossible because no numeric equation can decide whether a fighters comp is prime or past, Injured or well, robbed or not. Its just too many variables.

[BoxingGenius27]

No I didnt check it out but I will. I just feel like its impossible because no numeric equation can decide whether a fighters comp is prime or past, Injured or well, robbed or not. Its just too many variables.

That's why I love it. It's not emotional based.

We obviously haven't gotten anywhere with opinions because emotions or biased towards one's favorite fighter takes advantage.

When you're dealing with a computer algorithic based system, there are no feelings or bias for one's favorite fighter. Only facts.

BTW, all fighters have some sort of injury in training camp. It's a part of boxing and potential for excuse.

But regarding your other concerns, you'll be suprised what type of system engineers can create when given time.

[Ringlife]

The guy was fun to watch I got hooked when I saw him fight for the first time vs Campus and have been following him ever since I did think De La Hoya beat him at 147 but yeah I would say he is in all time great but not at 147.The thing that I liked about him he was he willing to face anybody to make big fights happen.

[deuce_drop]

trinidad is not an ATG at welterweight, for the simple fact that he dropped over 40+ lbs to fight at that weight at times, usually 35lbs was his standard......

not a real welterweight in my book......

[turbotime]

The guy was fun to watch I got hooked when I saw him fight for the first time vs Campus and have been following him ever since I did think De La Hoya beat him at 147 but yeah I would say he is in all time great but not at 147.The thing that I liked about him he was he willing to face anybody to make big fights happen.

Lol, really? What about 94-99 when there were great fighters in the division like Lopez, Quartey, primed Whitaker, Rivera, Oscar...and never fought Delahoya until the end of 1999 after Oscar finished running the gauntlet?

[Ringlife]

Lol, really? What about 94-99 when there were great fighters in the division like Lopez, Quartey, primed Whitaker, Rivera, Oscar...and never fought Delahoya until the end of 1999 after Oscar finished running the gauntlet?

Trinidad was calling out Whitaker for years back than and Quartey wouldn't of beat him anyways.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Campas and Camacho were both VERY good wins for Tito anybody who is poo pooing them doesn't know shyt

[turbotime]

Trinidad was calling out Whitaker for years back than and Quartey wouldn't of beat him anyways.

Yeah ok. Quartey vs Trinidad would have been a 50/50 fight. Quartey was a beast with just as good a jab as Wright had.