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Felix Trinidad an ATG at Welterweight?
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostNo it's not similar at all.
Who didn't Tito deserve to fight? Oscar? Why? He had questionable wins over Quartey and Whitaker.
Whitaker? Why? He had questionable win and looked bad against Rivera, while Hurtado was his last hurrah. But, had a questionable loss to Oscar.
Quartey? Had a questionable draw against Lopez that should have went his way, had a questionable lost to Oscar.
Lopez? Had a questionable draw with Quartey.
Rivera? Lost to Oscar, and caught a slippin Whitaker.
The argument that people make of Ward and Bute, that Ward has earn the right to fight whoever he wants next. Not only cuz' of his run and schedule of fights. But, also on how clearly he won that makes him clearly the #1 guy in the division the best guy in the division. He doesn't have to fight Bute next. He earn that right.
No one was dominating anything in WW division at that time...No one earned the right to fight whoever they want it at the WW division at that time.
Unless you want to count Oscar cuz' he was the Golden Boy.
And, again TIto 93-94 run is better than Bute whole resume.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostExactly...
Once again, ******, silly thread.
Anyone who claims that Tito is not an ATG is a fool. Tito fought everyone and knocked out most of them. Tito was once the most feared WW. Bute ani't **** COMPARED TO TITO. This fool Boxing Genuis doesnt know **** about boxing and im gonna run him away from boxing scene by exposing his ignorance of the sport! Tito was a ko artist, he always came to fight, in shape and focus, he could give and take. Didn't matter what he hit you with it hurt! Every shot was a power shot, even the jab! He should have never left welter weight. Very very good boxer. Bute and Tito should never be mentioned in the same sentence. Bute is garbage compared to THE GREAT FELIX TITO TRINADAD!
1990
Mar. 10 -- Angel Romero, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
Apr. 7 -- Israel Ponce, Miramar, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
June 21 -- William Lopez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
July 27 -- Omar Alegre, Capo D'Oralndo, Italy, TKO 5
Sep. 6 -- Jose Vilarino, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
Oct. 3 -- Valentin Ocasio, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 6
Nov. 13 -- Luis Perez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 2
1991
Mar. 13 -- Noe Rivera, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
May 1 -- Felix Vazquez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 3
June 21 -- Manuel Soles, Miami, Florida, TKO 5
July 10 -- Darren McGrew, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 10
Oct. 25 -- Lorenzo Bouie, Miami, Florida, KO 1
Dec. 6 -- Jake Rodriguez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 10
1992
May 3 -- Raul Gonzalez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 4
July 18 -- Joe Alexander, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 1
Oct. 3 -- Alberto Cortes, Paris, France, TKO 3
1993
Feb. 13 -- Henry Hughes, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
Feb. 20 -- Pedro Aguirre, Mexico City, Mexico, KO 4
May 8 -- Colin Tomlinson, Condado, Puerto Rico, KO 1
June 19 -- Maurice Blocker, San Diego, California, KO 2
(Captured IBF welterweight title)
Aug. 6 -- Luis Garcia, Bayamon, Puerto Rico, KO 1
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Oct. 23 -- Anthony Stephens, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, KO 10
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1994
Jan. 29 -- Hector Camacho, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 17 -- Yory Boy Campas, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Dec. 10 -- Oba Carr, Monterrey, Mexico, TKO 8
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1995
Apr. 8 -- Roger Turner, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 2
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Nov. 18 -- Larry Barnes, Atlantic City, New Jersey, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1996
Feb. 10 -- Rodney Moore, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
May 18 -- Freddie Pendleton, Las Vegas, Nevada, KO 5
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 7 -- Ray Lovato, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 6
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1997
Jan. 11 -- Kevin Leushing, Nashville, Tennessee, TKO 3
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Aug. 23 -- Troy Waters, New York City, KO 1
1998
Apr. 3 -- Mahenge Zulu, Bayamon, Puerto Rico, KO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1999
Feb. 20 -- Pernell Whitaker, New York, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
May 29 -- Hugo Pineda, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 18 -- Oscar de la Hoya, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
(Captured WBC welterweight title)
2000
Mar. 3 -- David Reid, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
(Captured WBA super welterweight title)
July 22 -- Mamadou Thiam, Miami, Florida, TKO 3
(Retained WBA super welterweight title)
Dec. 2 -- Fernando Vargas, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 12
(Retained WBA super welterweight title)
(Captured IBF junior middleweight title)
2001
May 12 -- William Joppy, New York, New York, TKO 5
(Captured WBA middleweight title)
Sept. 29 -- Bernard Hopkins, New York, New York, TKO by 12
(Lost WBA middleweight title)
(For WBC and IBF middleweight title)
2002
May 11 -- Hacine Cherifi, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 4
2004
Oct. 2 -- Ricardo Mayorga, New York, NY, TKO 8
2005
May 14 -- Winky Wright, Las Vegas, NV, L 12 *RECAP*
2006
*INACTIVE*
2007
*INACTIVE*
2008
Jan. 19 -- Roy Jones Jr., New York, NY, L 12 *RECAP*Last edited by SWEETSCIENCE100; 12-26-2011, 02:52 PM.
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Originally posted by turbotime View PostWhere did I say Trinidad didn't deserve to fight anyone? It's not about deserving to do anything, it's just interesting that Trinidad missed out on most of the best fighters at 147 and is still considered an ATG at the weight by most.
So what's the comparison you trying to make with Bute?
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Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View PostAnyone who claims that Tito is not an ATG is a fool. Tito fought everyone and knocked out most of them. Tito was once the most feared WW. Bute ani't **** COMPARED TO TITO. This fool Boxing Genuis doesnt know **** about boxing and im gonna run him away from boxing scene by exposing his ignorance of the sport! Tito was a ko artist, he always came to fight, in shape and focus, he could give and take. Didn't matter what he hit you with it hurt! Every shot was a power shot, even the jab! He should have never left welter weight. Very very good boxer. Bute and Tito should never be mentioned in the same sentence. Bute is garbage compared toTHE GREAT FELIX TITO TRINADAD!
1990
Mar. 10 -- Angel Romero, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
Apr. 7 -- Israel Ponce, Miramar, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
June 21 -- William Lopez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
July 27 -- Omar Alegre, Capo D'Oralndo, Italy, TKO 5
Sep. 6 -- Jose Vilarino, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 2
Oct. 3 -- Valentin Ocasio, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 6
Nov. 13 -- Luis Perez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 2
1991
Mar. 13 -- Noe Rivera, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
May 1 -- Felix Vazquez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 3
June 21 -- Manuel Soles, Miami, Florida, TKO 5
July 10 -- Darren McGrew, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 10
Oct. 25 -- Lorenzo Bouie, Miami, Florida, KO 1
Dec. 6 -- Jake Rodriguez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, W 10
1992
May 3 -- Raul Gonzalez, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 4
July 18 -- Joe Alexander, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 1
Oct. 3 -- Alberto Cortes, Paris, France, TKO 3
1993
Feb. 13 -- Henry Hughes, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 1
Feb. 20 -- Pedro Aguirre, Mexico City, Mexico, KO 4
May 8 -- Colin Tomlinson, Condado, Puerto Rico, KO 1
June 19 -- Maurice Blocker, San Diego, California, KO 2
(Captured IBF welterweight title)
Aug. 6 -- Luis Garcia, Bayamon, Puerto Rico, KO 1
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Oct. 23 -- Anthony Stephens, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, KO 10
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1994
Jan. 29 -- Hector Camacho, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 17 -- Yory Boy Campas, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Dec. 10 -- Oba Carr, Monterrey, Mexico, TKO 8
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1995
Apr. 8 -- Roger Turner, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 2
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Nov. 18 -- Larry Barnes, Atlantic City, New Jersey, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1996
Feb. 10 -- Rodney Moore, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
May 18 -- Freddie Pendleton, Las Vegas, Nevada, KO 5
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 7 -- Ray Lovato, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 6
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1997
Jan. 11 -- Kevin Leushing, Nashville, Tennessee, TKO 3
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Aug. 23 -- Troy Waters, New York City, KO 1
1998
Apr. 3 -- Mahenge Zulu, Bayamon, Puerto Rico, KO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
1999
Feb. 20 -- Pernell Whitaker, New York, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
May 29 -- Hugo Pineda, San Juan, Puerto Rico, KO 4
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
Sep. 18 -- Oscar de la Hoya, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained IBF welterweight title)
(Captured WBC welterweight title)
2000
Mar. 3 -- David Reid, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
(Captured WBA super welterweight title)
July 22 -- Mamadou Thiam, Miami, Florida, TKO 3
(Retained WBA super welterweight title)
Dec. 2 -- Fernando Vargas, Las Vegas, Nevada, TKO 12
(Retained WBA super welterweight title)
(Captured IBF junior middleweight title)
2001
May 12 -- William Joppy, New York, New York, TKO 5
(Captured WBA middleweight title)
Sept. 29 -- Bernard Hopkins, New York, New York, TKO by 12
(Lost WBA middleweight title)
(For WBC and IBF middleweight title)
2002
May 11 -- Hacine Cherifi, San Juan, Puerto Rico, TKO 4
2004
Oct. 2 -- Ricardo Mayorga, New York, NY, TKO 8
2005
May 14 -- Winky Wright, Las Vegas, NV, L 12 *RECAP*
2006
*INACTIVE*
2007
*INACTIVE*
2008
Jan. 19 -- Roy Jones Jr., New York, NY, L 12 *RECAP*Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 12-26-2011, 02:57 PM.
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Originally posted by SekondzOut View Postco-sign......need to put him in one of those cans Floyd will be going in....TS committed a major crime with that comparison
I'd say throw his ass in the garage somewhere....
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostNow that Turbotime is sleeping outside tonight, what should we do with SweetScience100?
I'd say throw his ass in the garage somewhere....
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Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100 View PostITS CLEAR TO ME THAT MOST OF YOU ARE NEW TO BOXING AND ARE REALLY YOUNG GUYS PRETENDING TO BE KNOWLEDGABLE IN BOXING! Tito was running **** at in the early 90s. Many did not want to fight him because of his relentless pressure and thunder fist. When you guys were ****ing in diapers I was either at the fight or watching it at home ,studing every aspect. Tito was God like and he packed the arena with fans that loved him and worshipped him!
Hey man, I'm not sure if you realize this or not, but I didn't start this crap thread nor co-sign anything the TS (Thread Starter) says, where is all this coming from LMAO??
Wow man, just wow.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostLMAO Does everybody see this ******ed fool?
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