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  • #91
    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    I'm not hoping for a cotto floyd fight. I simply think its better for him financially to go with GBP because they have more lucrative fighters right now.

    Cotto brings about 300-450k ppv buys I would guess. As such, he would get a higher guarantee.

    After a manny fight, who else does TR have to fight Miguel thats lucrative?
    BUT there is no guarantee what cotto will make against floyd, a guy who is known to demand a lot. thats what im trying to get across to u. u act as if GB offer cotto a deal to sign with them and he'll get a shot at floyd for 10mil or something and cotto turn it down and went with top rank. now if this was the case then yes cotto made a bad move but like i said there is NO guarantee, all that talk is nothing but your opinion. im sure bob and cotto sat down and went over cotto's option with top rank, thats why cotto chooses to stay with them dont u think??? or did cotto just suprisely stay with top rank without knowing what his future will hold? lol..
    Last edited by PACsmash; 12-06-2011, 03:18 PM.

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    • #92
      "Another Poochi retread bending over for the paper without making (Mr. needle in the booty) take that RANDOM test. Go on ahead Cotto get your money and take yo 2nd ass whoopin like a man. Ariza should be all smiles now"

      The Truck

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
        I don't know bro, the majority of boxing fans thought that Marquez gave it to Pacman.

        I honestly believe that Cotto lost because he thought he was the bigger man. If Cotto moves the way he did on saturday, Pacman will look like a deer in headlights. I say make the damn fight, lets see.
        Cotto was making so many mistakes. He was getting into wild exchanges, hunching over the lead foot and brawling too much. He should have boxed from the get, and picked his spots. Santiago didn't help matters at all and you're right he practically trained himself which explains alot about the Clottey performance.

        If they make the fight at Jr MW*(w/Diaz or Stew) I'm going to bet Miguel can get the upset.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by PACsmash View Post
          BUT there is no guarantee what cotto will make against floyd, a guy who is known to demand a lot. thats what im trying to get across to u. u act as if GB offer cotto a deal to sign with them and he'll get a shot at floyd for 10mil or something and cotto turn it down and went with top rank. now if this was the case then yes cotto made a bad move but like i said there is NO guarantee, all that talk is nothing but your opinion. im sure bob and cotto sat down and went over cotto's option with top rank, thats why cotto chooses to stay with them dont u think??? or did cotto just suprisely stay with top rank without knowing what his future will hold? lol..
          So true, obviously Cotto went over his options. And felt TR in the long run will net him more money, and im pretty sure Cotto knows whats best for him than we do financially.

          And its not like Cotto signed a contract. Hes probably with top rank right now on a fight per fight basis, thats what im reading right now.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Oxn View Post
            read response above.

            are you saying Cotto got as good drawing power as Oscar? because both fights did 1.25 against Manny.

            Like i said, its all about opposition, and perception, and timing. No doubt Cotto on his own draws more than Ortiz, but you also gotta look at fan crossovers.

            Shane Mosely draws 50k ppv on his own, and yet he managed 1.4mil against Floyd? Like is aid its timing and perception. Shane was a legit WW fight after Floyd retired after Hatton. JMM fight everyone knew was bogus.
            You make a good argument. No I'm not saying ODH and cotto are equal. You can't just do a one fight sample anyway.

            Cotto just fought a ppv that likely sells at worst 500k ppv's. Cotto filled the Garden with 20k fans. I'm pretty sure he has the fanbase to sell tickets.

            Floyd and cotto would likely suck visually, but it would surely sell commercially.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Oxn View Post
              So true, obviously Cotto went over his options. And felt TR in the long run will net him more money, and im pretty sure Cotto knows whats best for him than we do financially.

              And its not like Cotto signed a contract. Hes probably with top rank right now on a fight per fight basis, thats what im reading right now.
              its crazy bro, these guys act as if they know more than the fighter himself lol.. dude acts as if he works for GB and knew what GB's plan for cotto was if cotto signed with them. all that nonsense up there is just his opinion, there is no guarantee what cotto will get or who cotto will fight if cotto chooses to go with GB. He's just mad that cotto stay with bob again.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by PACsmash View Post
                BUT there is no guarantee what cotto will make against floyd, a guy who is known to demand a lot. thats what im trying to get across to u. u act as if GB offer cotto a deal to sign with them and he'll get a shot at floyd for 10mil or something and cotto turn it down and went with top rank. now if this was the case then yes cotto made a bad move but like i said there is NO guarantee, all that talk is nothing but your opinion. im sure bob and cotto sat down and went over cotto's option with top rank, thats why cotto chooses to stay with them dont u think??? or did cotto just suprisely stay with top rank without knowing what his future will hold? lol..
                I'm sure TR presented him with some good options. Perhaps they did promise him more vs manny. I haven't criticized Cotto for staying.

                I didn't make it seem like anything. You keep reading into every post rather than just read the post. The more lucrative options for Miguel are with fighters currently signed or working with GBP, other than manny.

                Your assumption is manny cotto at 150 sells. Can you tell me why this fight would sell more than the 1.25 nil it did last time?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by PACsmash View Post
                  its crazy bro, these guys act as if they know more than the fighter himself lol.. dude acts as if he works for GB and knew what GB's plan for cotto was if cotto signed with them. all that nonsense up there is just his opinion, there is no guarantee what cotto will get or who cotto will fight if cotto chooses to go with GB. He's just mad that cotto stay with bob again.
                  Why would I be mad at cotto staying with Bob? Of course I gave my opinion, based on what the most lucrative options are.

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                  • #99
                    In an interview this morning in 98.5 Sal Soul radio station (PR) Cotto said that his promoter was Top Rank, but did not say anything about signing contract with him. He can still fight for them and be a free agent. However, his comments indicated that he was going to be loyal to Top Rank. He is thankful for all Top Rank done for his career. But personally, I think he is being polite. His contract is up on December 31. Let's see what happens after that.

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                    • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                      I'm sure TR presented him with some good options. Perhaps they did promise him more vs manny. I haven't criticized Cotto for staying.

                      I didn't make it seem like anything. You keep reading into every post rather than just read the post. The more lucrative options for Miguel are with fighters currently signed or working with GBP, other than manny.

                      Your assumption is manny cotto at 150 sells. Can you tell me why this fight would sell more than the 1.25 nil it did last time?
                      Dunn lets go hypothetical for a second.

                      Cotto although many here may not agree i believe has a good shot of beating Manny the 2nd time around. He just needs to execute the right plan this time and i think he may have it in the bag. By the time he knew how to fight Manny by the mid rounds, his body already took its toll so he wasnt able to execute it. 2nd time around i think he knows what to do.

                      Now Cotto has a very very small chance at Beating Floyd. Like VERY small.

                      Now imagine it in Cottos mind. A win against Manny which i think he got a respectable chance in winning, will launch him into superstardom after everyone has counted him out based on the first fight. And from that point forward make even more.

                      Or lose to Floyd, then get low balled by Canelo and fight in Mexico?

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