Manny Pacquiao's resume hasn't improved since 2009 !!

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  • AFighter4U
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    #181
    Originally posted by cixthree
    How many times has Manny come in over the agreed upon weight?
    Anything above 140 is a WW fight.. Oh and according to Manny fans "2 pounds means nothing!!! Cotto at 145 instead of 147"


    This is all recycled BS if you havent noticed.
    you never answered my question.

    what PRE-fight interview did clottey say OR hint that he was supposed to lose? you only mentioned a POST fight interview.

    you said clottey mentioned in both PRE and POST fight interviews he was supposed to lose, yet you only mentioned the single POST fight interview.

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      #182
      JRO it is literally hilarious how you are trying to act like athletes who get caught cheating don't have their previous accomplishments tainted in some peoples eyes. I am not even going to argue with you further because you just love Margs d**k so damn much, but for you to act like it is proposterous of me to question Margs after he's has been caught with plaster in his gloves is shocking, literally shocking. A true fan of the sport nuthu**ing an a fighter who completely disrespected everything boxing stands for, what a joke.

      Of course it is SPECULATION that Margs cheated in the Cotto fight. Margs got caught with loaded gloves 2 fights later, that changes my view on Margs as a fighter, that is my opinion, just like it changed my opinion of Mark McGwire when he got caught.

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      • AFighter4U
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        #183
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        And, the ones who would debate that statement are the Johnny Comelately fans. Who honestly didn't follow boxing back then.

        And, the posters of your ilk statement is the hypocritical contradiction posters.

        See the drug discussion we had.
        that's rather arrogant of you to say that those who disagree with that statement are johnny comelately. i guarantee you, if you google manny's top 10 fights, you would find people who based their careers on boxing having a different opinion than that of yours.

        hypocritical contradiction? where did i contradict myself in our drug discussion?

        didn't i agree with you that multiple random urine tests are way better than a single urine test the date of which one already knows?

        where did i contradict myself there?
        Last edited by AFighter4U; 11-09-2011, 12:39 PM.

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        • Ring Leader
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          #184
          I agree. He has been fighting lower and lower level competition fighters every dam fight. When they announced the Clottey fight I thought it was a joke, seriously

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            #185
            Originally posted by Chopper417
            JRO it is literally hilarious how you are trying to act like athletes who get caught cheating don't have their previous accomplishments tainted in some peoples eyes. I am not even going to argue with you further because you just love Margs d**k so damn much, but for you to act like it is proposterous of me to question Margs after he's has been caught with plaster in his gloves is shocking, literally shocking. A true fan of the sport nuthu**ing an a fighter who completely disrespected everything boxing stands for, what a joke.

            Of course it is SPECULATION that Margs cheated in the Cotto fight. Margs got caught with loaded gloves 2 fights later, that changes my view on Margs as a fighter, that is my opinion, just like it changed my opinion of Mark McGwire when he got caught.
            Just like it's fair to speculate Oscar...Why hasn't he signed the waiver?

            You can speculate all you want.

            But, it's fine that you speculating on one when it fits the agenda. You can speculate about every guy a mention.

            Fact is you can't take away a win off speculation. Is he scum? Sure. Does he deserve to be fighting? No. Should he be in jail for life? Let him rot. Did he cheat against Cotto? Who knows, so how you gonna take away win? Because, of speculation? GTFOH.

            And, was that really your motive to take away his win against Cotto? Because, he supposedly cheated? Or was your motive to take away the win against Cotto to prove that Manny comp hasn't been up to par?

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              #186
              Originally posted by Motofan
              I'm with you on this one. I cant blame him for cashing in on easy fights with big names who are far past their best days, but it sucks to see him waste whats left of his prime years on meaningless fights.



              Its funny to see a Mayweather hater agreeing with us

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                #187
                Originally posted by AFighter4U
                that's rather arrogant of you to say that those who disagree with that statement are johnny comelately. i guarantee you, if you google manny's top 10 fights, you would find people who based their careers on boxing having a different opinion than that of yours.

                hypocritical contradiction? where did i contradict myself in our drug discussion?

                didn't i agree with you that multiple random urine tests are way better than a single urine test the date of which one already knows?

                where did i contradict myself there?
                How? Really? You go on a debate on how the test that Floyd Jr is asking for is not better than what we have now. And, you still believe that right. But, agree that random urine testing is better than what we have now. Do you not see the contradiction? Really?

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                  #188
                  Ok, but how then has Mayweather enhanced his? Beating Marquez gets no credit according to the TS so throw that out, Mosley almost dropped him so rule that out and he gets no credit for sucker punching Ortiz. So Mayweather had less fights, all not career makers and gets no credit either. They still need to fight and Money keeps finding a way to duck the fight.

                  End of story.

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                  • AFighter4U
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    How? Really? You go on a debate on how the test that Floyd Jr is asking for is not better than what we have now. And, you still believe that right. But, agree that random urine testing is better than what we have now. Do you not see the contradiction? Really?
                    did i? if i recall right, my contention was that random blood tests were no better than random urine tests.

                    maybe you equated my stand to others who think current testing standards are good enough.

                    and i do have an issue on announced tests. that's why mosley and conte were able to cheat the tests in the first place, since they knew beforehand when to prepare for it.

                    remember my spiel about cleaning the system having to be done in 24 hours?

                    random urine/blood tests take care of that. and team Pac already stated on record that they are more than willing to take unlimited random urine tests.

                    makes me wish they'd hurry up and perfect that test on hair samples. then again, i'm sure some genius would figure out a way to wash the evidence from the hair. (its a vicious cycle, i know)


                    and i stand on my statement jro. you're an intelligent poster and obviously a long-time boxing fan. but its rather elitist of you to think that no boxing fan who followed boxing as long as you or even longer would disagree on pac's best wins being exclusively at 135 below.
                    Last edited by AFighter4U; 11-09-2011, 01:03 PM.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                      Ok, but how then has Mayweather enhanced his? Beating Marquez gets no credit according to the TS so throw that out, Mosley almost dropped him so rule that out and he gets no credit for sucker punching Ortiz. So Mayweather had less fights, all not career makers and gets no credit either. They still need to fight and Money keeps finding a way to duck the fight.

                      End of story.
                      Wow, you regard Floyd very very very highly...If I didn't know better, you regard Floyd higher than you do Pacquiao with your high standards.

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