Manny Pacquiao's resume hasn't improved since 2009 !!

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  • AFighter4U
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    #171
    Originally posted by Body Movin'
    william hung of boxing.
    typical. i voice a statement disagreeing with your own opinion, and you devolve into childish name-calling.

    ah well. i guess that kind of behavior is to be expected from folks like yourself.

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      #172
      Originally posted by Chopper417
      In light of what has happened with Margarito since I simply disagree, period. Everyone has their own opinion on Margs and the plaster but I simply do not view the Cotto win in the same light anymore, that is my opinion, and I think it is more than substantiated considering the man is a proven cheater. Think what u want.

      Every fight u named above has not involved a proven cheater except for one (Margarito vs Mosley) so please don't for one minute try to act like they are even remotely similar situations.
      Who are you to take away a win though? You can't take a win...And, yes it's proven that he tried to cheat against Mosley. But, nothing absolutely nothing is proven that he did anything wrong against Cotto.

      Now if you want to speculate, then fine speculate. But, you can also speculate about Oscar, Ortiz, Judah, Baldomir and everyone else that i name.

      But, you know what? It's obvious that you're no better than Afighter4u and posters of that ilk. So please carry on.

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        #173
        Originally posted by Chopper417
        His best wins are below 135, that simply is not up for debate.
        for you maybe, but with so many folks having their own varied opinions regarding this particular topic, it still is.

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          #174
          Originally posted by AFighter4U
          for you maybe, but with so many folks having their own varied opinions regarding this particular topic, it still is.
          Pac best win is the first Marco Antonio Barrera fight. Maybe the Johnny Comelately fans think one of his most recent fights are his best win. But, anyone who watched the sport back then will know that MAB is his best.

          But, I don't see how's that a negative anyways?

          Floyd best win came below 130 with Corrales. His top 3 is Corrales, Castillo and, Chicanito. That's damn good wins.

          I would also say that Floyd doesn't have a win that's better than that first Barrera fight for Pac.

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          • Chopper417
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            #175
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Who are you to take away a win though? You can't take a win...And, yes it's proven that he tried to cheat against Mosley. But, nothing absolutely nothing is proven that he did anything wrong against Cotto.

            Now if you want to speculate, then fine speculate. But, you can also speculate about Oscar, Ortiz, Judah, Baldomir and everyone else that i name.

            But, you know what? It's obvious that you're no better than Afighter4u and posters of that ilk. So please carry on.
            Not speculation, he is a proven cheater, period. Say what you want.

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              #176
              Originally posted by Chopper417
              Not speculation, he is a proven cheater, period. Say what you want.
              It is speculation for the Cotto fight Period.

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              • AFighter4U
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                #177
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Pac best win is the first Marco Antonio Barrera fight. Maybe the Johnny Comelately fans think one of his most recent fights are his best win. But, anyone who watched the sport back then will know that MAB is his best.

                But, I don't see how's that a negative anyways?

                Floyd best win came below 130 with Corrales. His top 3 is Corrales, Castillo and, Chicanito. That's damn good wins.

                I would also say that Floyd doesn't have a win that's better than that first Barrera fight for Pac.
                i never said that pacs best wins being at 135 and below is a bad thing. i basically said that others would wish to debate that statement.

                and what was that statement about me and my ilk?

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                • cixthree
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by AFighter4U
                  which pre-fight interview pray tell, did clottey say he was supposed to lose?he lost his last fight against Cotto in a CLOSE FIGHT. and rumors of him not being allowed to rehydrate to much are just that.. rumors. no respectable news outlet ran that story.
                  Well I Guess you need to start paying a lil more attention to boxing rather than just one boxer.
                  Clottey has had a few interviews since the Manny fight.
                  ]In one interview (When he went home to Ganha), he was saying it without really saying it




                  dead man walking? MOST of Margarito's fights were at 147 dude. and you say at 150 he's dead man walking? meh.
                  Yea, 147 and loaded/pumped full of uppers!!



                  crap fight. no argument from me there.



                  yeah. and that's why floyd decided to cheat with his weight just to be sure that he wins against a smaller, older foe in spite of having ALL the advantages in his favor.
                  How many times has Manny come in over the agreed upon weight?
                  Anything above 140 is a WW fight.. Oh and according to Manny fans "2 pounds means nothing!!! Cotto at 145 instead of 147"


                  This is all recycled BS if you havent noticed.

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                  • tatangb45
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Chopper417
                    Remove Floyd from the equation and Pac's career defining moments were still all below 135, doesn't change literally one thing bro.
                    Tell us who, other than Pac, beat or can beat all these boxers one after another (DLH, Cotto, Clottey, Margo and Shane), and could beat them as dominantly as Pac did? Who, besides those in this list, were the better opponents that Pac should have fought during that same period?

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U
                      i never said that pacs best wins being at 135 and below is a bad thing. i basically said that others would wish to debate that statement.

                      and what was that statement about me and my ilk?
                      And, the ones who would debate that statement are the Johnny Comelately fans. Who honestly didn't follow boxing back then.

                      And, the posters of your ilk statement is the hypocritical contradiction posters.

                      See the drug discussion we had.

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