More rumors on Mayweather/Ortiz PPV buys

[Deevel916]

You make good points but SHowtime has yet to release the figures from Manny and Mosley. 1.3 mil was Bob's number but not confirmed by Showtime. It seems niether fight reached expectations.

Well GPB and Mayweather seem to take that # serious given the fact that they are reluctant to release the news of their reported 1.1 - 1.2mil ppv figure. The only logical conclusion that I can come up with for why they havent released the official #'s for Floyd/Ortiz was because it did less than 1.3mil. Once again, I'm aware that Showtime never made an official statement on the Pac/Mosley #'s, but the word is it did 1.3mil buys, and given the fact that Pac just did 700k against Clottey, a fighter with absolutey zero fanbase, followed by 1.4mil buys against Margarito, 1.3 against Mosley doesnt seem like a stretch.

[Hougigo]

Well GPB and Mayweather seem to take that # serious given the fact that they are reluctant to release the news of their reported 1.1 - 1.2mil ppv figure. The only logical conclusion that I can come up with for why they havent released the official #'s for Floyd/Ortiz was because it did less than 1.3mil. Once again, I'm aware that Showtime never made an official statement on the Pac/Mosley #'s, but the word is it did 1.3mil buys, and given the fact that Pac just did 700k against Clottey, a fighter with absolutey zero fanbase, followed by 1.4mil buys against Margarito, 1.3 against Mosley doesnt seem like a stretch.

Margarito did 1.15 million

[Deevel916]

Margarito did 1.15 million

I stand corrected. Thanks. Last I read, they were reporting the fight did 1.4.

[The Big Dunn]

Well GPB and Mayweather seem to take that # serious given the fact that they are reluctant to release the news of their reported 1.1 - 1.2mil ppv figure. The only logical conclusion that I can come up with for why they havent released the official #'s for Floyd/Ortiz was because it did less than 1.3mil. Once again, I'm aware that Showtime never made an official statement on the Pac/Mosley #'s, but the word is it did 1.3mil buys, and given the fact that Pac just did 700k against Clottey, a fighter with absolutey zero fanbase, followed by 1.4mil buys against Margarito, 1.3 against Mosley doesnt seem like a stretch.

You can't have it both ways. Officially, niether company has released the figures.

On Arum's, because Manny didn't outsell floyd again with a similiar opponent then 50/50 is out the window. On Mayweather's end, if you read the ny times article on his business model, it means he didn't pull in the $40 mil he wanted because the fight didn't do 1.4 mil. Unfortunately for Floyd, too many people took the closed circuit/theatre option which cut into profits. According to all reports, movie house business was up significantly.

It seems clear each fight didn't reach the speculative number. I'm sure the JMM/MArquez number, which should do more than 1.2 mil, will be released rather quickly.

[The Big Dunn]

Well GPB and Mayweather seem to take that # serious given the fact that they are reluctant to release the news of their reported 1.1 - 1.2mil ppv figure. The only logical conclusion that I can come up with for why they havent released the official #'s for Floyd/Ortiz was because it did less than 1.3mil. Once again, I'm aware that Showtime never made an official statement on the Pac/Mosley #'s, but the word is it did 1.3mil buys, and given the fact that Pac just did 700k against Clottey, a fighter with absolutey zero fanbase, followed by 1.4mil buys against Margarito, 1.3 against Mosley doesnt seem like a stretch.

Also I think Manny/Marg didn't reach 1.2 mil.

[JOM'S]

1.1 still isn't good compared to what they thought it'd sell and after all the promoting of him being the biggest star in boxing, IMO it just doesn't sound good.
Honestly though, 1 million is effin fantastic and nothing to be ashamed of.
Also seroiusly, why is everybody assuming everyone bought the fight in HD?
70 dollars for HD
65 for regular
I see everyone saying, oh, well at 70 dollars a pop it still did a lot!
Not everybody bought HD.

even for the biggest star 1 million is good, see Oscar who is bigger star than either Pac or Floyd still have less than 1M PPV, so I really dont buy the argument that it makes floyd look bad, BUT I do buy the argument that maybe it did not do as well as Pac-Mosley that's why they are keeping lowkey...

[JOM'S]

1.1million is not bad at all against Victor Ortiz. No way Pacquiao could do 1million+ against Ortiz...

I beg to differ. If he could pull 750K from Clottey, he could definitely get over a million with Ortiz.

I have to agree with hougigo here add 24/7, Mexican Holiday, Pac's Mexican fans, Mexican centric undercard (not mention Erik Morales is their) plus the fact that more people will give Ortiz a better chance against manny, IMHO Manny-Ortiz under the same circumstances of Floyd-Ortiz would even sellout the latter...

[S.J. II]

1M buys is good considering the PPV was $10 more expensive than the regular PPV price.

They made as much money off 1M @ $70 as they would have with 1.167M @ $60.

[BoZz]

pac only sold 700k when he fought clottey and arum still took 30% of his purse LOL

[Deevel916]

1M buys is good considering the PPV was $10 more expensive than the regular PPV price.

They made as much money off 1M @ $70 as they would have with 1.167M @ $60.

Nobody is refuting this. 1mil is good! The question is, why the reluctancy to release the #? Mark Taffet was asked directly and he deflected the question towards the promoters.