More rumors on Mayweather/Ortiz PPV buys

[Deevel916]

I think people tend to exxagerate Floyd's ppv drawing power due to his record breaking ppv with Oscar. That fight did 2.4mil then in his very next fight against Hatton, he did did 850k buys. His fights with JMM and Mosley did around 1.2 and 1.4. Even if this fight did around a 1mil, its still on target with Floyd's actual drawing power. Why they would be ashamed to release the #'s is beyond me. That is unless it did under 1mil.

[S.J. II]

Nobody is refuting this. 1mil is good! The question is, why the reluctancy to release the #? Mark Taffet was asked directly and he deflected the question towards the promoters.

Let me call Leonard Ellerbe and ask him

[S.J. II]

I think people tend to exxagerate Floyd's ppv drawing power due to his record breaking ppv with Oscar. That fight did 2.4mil then in his very next fight against Hatton, he did did 850k buys. His fights with JMM and Mosley did around 1.2 and 1.4. Even if this fight did around a 1mil, its still on target with Floyd's actual drawing power. Why they would be ashamed to release the #'s is beyond me. That is unless it did under 1mil.

Why did Pacquiao only do 1.25M against Oscar? Where did the other 1.15M that bought Oscar-Mayweather go?

[Deevel916]

Why did Pacquiao only do 1.25M against Oscar? Where did the other 1.15M that bought Oscar-Mayweather go?

1.25 seems to be a true estimate of Pac's ppv drawing though. Its not like he did 1.25mil, then have his #'s drastically drop in his very next fight!

As for where did the other 1.15mil that didnt buy Floyd/Hatton go? That's a good question.

[V.WEBB]

Yes its a mess for Floyd and GBP because now the pressure is on them to release the official #'s after initially reporting that the fight did 1.3mil when in fact the rumors are that the fight did anywhere from 850k - 1.1mil

Floyd or GBP did that? I must have missed that. Can you link me? Also, how can you say "in fact" then in the next few words you say "rumors"? LOL.

As for Floyd being the biggest draw, that very well maybe true. The thing is, he's had no problem in the past boasting about his ppv buys when they were highly successful. Why go mum all of a sudden and withhold the info regarding the buy #'s?

What do you mean "maybe true", that been already been established. And again, I'm not the "ppv buys" guy so this convo probably won't carry on too much longer.

[V.WEBB]

anything even close to a mil is great numbers

Heck yea it is, especially when they are charging us $ 50-60 (70 for the Floyd-Ortiz) a whop for these PPV cards.

[S.J. II]

1.25 seems to be a true estimate of Pac's ppv drawing though. Its not like he did 1.25mil, then have his #'s drastically drop in his very next fight!

As for where did the other 1.15mil that didnt buy Floyd/Hatton go? That's a good question.

Hatton was an unknown Englishman. A short, pasty white guy really got Americans thinking that Floyd was going to be beat. Riiight.

[Elotero]

??

Pac mosley was released by espn, giving a confident figure...so far all we have from this one is estimates.



I wasnt trying to compare ppv buys, so congratulations. 1.4 was a very good number.



When richard schaefer releases the number to espn (ie confirms it - not guesstimates it) then you can make that statement.

I still say that 1.1 million is rather low for a mayweather vs mexican fight on mexican holiday. Mayweather usually generates much higher than that...

Whats the difference between a "confident figure" and an estimate?

NOTHING.

[Deevel916]

Floyd or GBP did that? I must have missed that. Can you link me? Also, how can you say "in fact" then in the next few words you say "rumors"? LOL.



What do you mean "maybe true", that been already been established. And again, I'm not the "ppv buys" guy so this convo probably won't carry on too much longer.

Because its a FACT that there are indeed RUMORS going around that the fight did far less than anticipated. Got it?

[jrosales13]

This is how a big of a draw Floyd is....When people say that his drawing power is exaggerated when he does around a mili buys. When his event does anywhere from 850k-1.1mil and you got morons saying that's a disappointment...That's how you can tell that this mofo drawing power is unreal.

Same thing with Pac though...When you got people saying he "ONLY" had 700K buys...Then you know dude drawing power is very high...

These numbers no other fighters can do...People forget that there were times when Oscar couldn't even reach these type of numbers. Even in his peak.

That's why I laugh at the ******s who try to diss or discredit either fighter when they're events sell so much.