Why Cotto is a future Hall-of-Famer

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Not in my book either. I was with him until he mentioned Calderon.

    Too many fighters who deserve to be in before these 2.
    Way, way too many.

    It's actually incredible. Nothing will consistently confuse me more than Pone Kingpetch constantly not being inducted into the HOF year after year.

    I hope the likes of Corales, Gatti, Cotto, Hatton etc etc etc don't get inducted before any of they do. But I fear that these fears are going to come true.

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      #42
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Stallone got in the 'Non-participant' wing of the HOF.

      Entirely different scenario to getting in the HOF for being a fighter.

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        #43
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I disagree.

        I found B-Hop-Roy useless when it happened.

        Cotto-Marg for me is the most anticipated PPV fight this year. More so than Floyd/Ortiz and Pac/JMM. For the reasons that Harry mentioned and because I don't know who would win.

        I knew who would win in B-Hop/Roy, and I know will win in Floyd and Pac fights. But, this one? And, you add the controversy and the drama of the first fight the bad blood. sheeeeeeeeeeeet
        B-Hop and Roy was a bad fight and this fight IMO is not far off from it. I don't like the fight because it won't come close to the drama of the first fight. Neither of those guys can take the punishment that either of them dished out in the 1st. They both should have took a long lay-off to recharge after the first then rematch. Cause we have all seen that neither of them has been the same after that fight. I am not caught up in the bad blood aspect of the fight. I am just looking at what I feel each fighter is capable of doing in the fight and its not much to me. Damn shame this fight gonna be on PPV cause for one will not be ordering it.

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          #44
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Way, way too many.

          It's actually incredible. Nothing will consistently confuse me more than Pone Kingpetch constantly not being inducted into the HOF year after year.

          I hope the likes of Corales, Gatti, Cotto, Hatton etc etc etc don't get inducted before any of they do. But I fear that these fears are going to come true.
          I agree, and you know it wouldn't surprise me if some if not all of those guys get in. But, that would be criminal IMO. But, none of them deserve to be in. None. Especially when you have Kingpetch, Booker, Kid in there. I'm serious I wouldn't put Cotto in before I put Curry in.

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            #45
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Calderon is not going in and shouldn't go in.

            Why would YOU vote for Calderon over Cotto?
            He was widely viewed as a technically superior boxer who had a long run as an undefeated champion. Perhaps he could have moved up and faced some tougher fights. I may be wrong on this one.

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              #46
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              The logic of 'Stallone got in so so and so will' is suprisingly used an awful lot.

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                #47
                Calderon is very slick and unbeatable in his prime.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  I agree, and you know it wouldn't surprise me if some if not all of those guys get in. But, that would be criminal IMO. But, none of them deserve to be in. None. Especially when you have Kingpetch, Booker, Kid in there. I'm serious I wouldn't put Cotto in before I put Curry in.
                  Wouldn't suprise me either.

                  Curry definitely before Cotto. Definitely, Camacho even.

                  Tiger Jones another fighter who HAS to be inducted. List goes on and on before the likes of Cotto get in, IMO.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by tredh
                    B-Hop and Roy was a bad fight and this fight IMO is not far off from it. I don't like the fight because it won't come close to the drama of the first fight. Neither of those guys can take the punishment that either of them dished out in the 1st. They both should have took a long lay-off to recharge after the first then rematch. Cause we have all seen that neither of them has been the same after that fight. I am not caught up in the bad blood aspect of the fight. I am just looking at what I feel each fighter is capable of doing in the fight and its not much to me. Damn shame this fight gonna be on PPV cause for one will not be ordering it.
                    I disagree, and I for one will be ordering it.

                    It's not on the same level but look at Barrera-Morales III. Where both fighters had seen better days. One fighter was considered done and the other shop worn at that time. Just like how Marg is considered done and Cotto shop worn. But, it didn't stop Barrera-Morales third fight being entertaining and maybe their bad blood they had helped the entertainment value. Another one, Hearns-Leonard II was entertaining and both fighters had seen better days at the tail end of their careers. Now not saying Marg-Cotto II is on their level and they might be worse of than both.

                    However, stylistically Cotto-Marg and considering that both are in the down slide so both are close the same level IMO it will make it very interesting....

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                      #50
                      Cotto failed in his two biggest fights-Margo and Pac. He would had beat Margo might get him closer to HOF cause Pac is at a different level.

                      I don't think he should be a HOF unless he beats Margo and then Floyd/Pac or Martinez

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