Why Cotto is a future Hall-of-Famer

[Hamaru]

Cotto is a good boxer; however, he isn't doing much to put him in the HOF. Even if he does win his next fight, what would beating Chavez Jr. prove? It would be a belt from someone that isn't well respected as a champion. He is yet to fight his mandatory (Austin Trout) and isn't seeking fights against elite fighters. If he decided to clean the top 7 fighters in his class, I'd say he deserves a HOF spot. If he stops at Cavez Jr., no.

[dde91]

Man i swear when a fighter loses in theses days fans like you guys are writing them off so easily. Saying something like Cotto beating Margarito wont do nothing for his legacy. Margarito lost a couple time but dont write him off. He is stil a very Game figher. Back in the days nobody Wrote off Robinson when he lost to Lamotta. They overlooked Ali many times as he got a little older and he still shocked the world. Barrera spanked by Jones went life and death with Morales but then came back and whooped Hamed. Morales lost to Pacquiao Diaz and them. Everybody wrote him off then he had another spectacular performance against a prime fighter Maidana. So all of you are quick to drop a fighter once they lose one time. lol its ridiculous . Duran lost to other great fighters but always came back when he was doubted .

[915angel]

cotto is a future hall of famer great fighter and hes puerto rican







they f'kked him over though in the pac fight IMO its the last damm round he coulda made should of been a UD loss instead of a 12 round tko -_-

[Brother Jay]

No, I'll tell you why. Because It's one of the most anticipated fights of the year, arguably the most anticipated. (not among casualfans probably)

I'd blame Arum for pretty much anything, but this fight is very legit.

How is this fight legitimate? Margarito is coming off a beating ALL WHILE BEING BANNED. How the fcuk does that banned cheater and loser deserve a title shot at jrMW?

Do you even understand how rankings works?

I don't give a fcuk how much its anticipated. There are other boxers who have actually had to fight their way to title fights. Antonio Margarito deserves no special considerations. Especially at 154lbs and especially after what he pulled with the fist casts.

I can't even believe you wrote what you did. Then again, I don't know you that well so I shouldn't really be surprised at all.

You're a terrible poster.

And you have yet to write something that shows any honesty or knowledge about boxing and its history aside from posting lists and other writer's opinions. That in of itself makes you a peasant.

I don't worry much about what you have to say. Anyone who is more than willing to exaggerate Cotto's importance to the sport would also be more than willing to say that he is a HOF.

That's no surprise. You're a clown in that respect.

Cotto beating Mosley in 2007 when Mosley's biggest accomplishment since 2003 was beating Fernando Vargas was not Mosley's finest hour. Even then, Mosley should have won that fight or at the very least got a draw.

Bygones.

However, if you are claiming that Miguel Cotto is a HOF because he got the nod in that fight over Shane Mosley, and because he beat Yuri freakin Foreman who's biggest win came over Daniel Santos, then yes .. you're a fcuking idiot.

You "new" fans are pathetic and have no greater desire than to destroy boxing.

Look at the greats we have had in the last 10 years:

Roy Jones
Bernard Hopkins
Ricardo Lopez
Kostya Tszyu
Juan Manuel Marquez

These men have longevity at the top. They didn't flip flop all over the place. No one fight made or broke them. They showed excellence throughout their careers and only Jones stayed long enough to get old and became too stubborn to hang it up.

Cotto isn't even CLOSE to doing what those men did. For you to even suggest that he has shows that you have an agenda. You're not an honest fan, and you seek to make your favorites seem better than they really are.

You asked for it. Now you're about to get sat down, pimpslapped and have the wallet in which you keep your membership card to ******ity anonymous taken from you.

1 - Cotto competed for a vacant WBC belt against Cesar Bazan to claim that he was a champion at 140lbs. Then, Miguel competed for a vacant WBO 140lb belt against Kelson Pinto to beef up his credentials on PAPER. But who the fcuk are Bazan and Pinto?

2 - Then, as if 2 vacant titles weren't enough, Miguel Cotto then fought Carlos Quintana for the vacant WBA 147lbs title. Are you guys seeing the trend here? Are you forum members understanding the trend???

YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED A CHAMPION UNLESS YOU BEAT A CHAMPION FOR THAT DISTINCTION!!! What Cotto did was tantamount to being a lowly scavenger. He scrambled to fight lower fighters for table scraps that fell off the top tier.

3 - Later on when Miguel Cotto got his asss beaten half to death against Antonio Margarito and lost his vacant WBA 147 paper title, COTTO IMMEDIATELY COMPETED FOR THE VACANT WBO 147 paper title against Michael Jennings. Who the fcuk is Michael Jennings again?

4 - Two fights later, Cotto got yet another beating of a lifetime at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. Manny was very happy because he finally got his hands on a vacant WW paper title that Cotto had defended once.

After that last defeat, Cotto decided to move up in weight.

Guess what, people?

5 - For the first time in Miguel Cotto's career, he fought and won a world title that wasn't VACANT against Yuri Foreman. Whoopty fcuking doo.

Jrosales13, you have been weighed .. you have been measured .. and you have been found wanting. You are beneath me, and your foolish ideas about what true greatness is in the context of boxing legacies are laughable.

And that's why you just got mugged by this post.

You call Cotto a HOF'er and claim that he has had a great career. Then that means the above men I listed must be GODS because all current Top Rank fighters pale in comparison ... including Manny Pacquiao who, by the way, has used 5 vacant titles of his own to make his case for being an 8 division champion.

I guess its a Top Rank thing, huh?

Hahahahaha ... peasants and their dreams. You gotta pity them.

[Barry Halls]

How is this fight legitimate? Margarito is coming off a beating ALL WHILE BEING BANNED. How the fcuk does that banned cheater and loser deserve a title shot at jrMW?

Do you even understand how rankings works?

I don't give a fcuk how much its anticipated. There are other boxers who have actually had to fight their way to title fights. Antonio Margarito deserves no special considerations. Especially at 154lbs and especially after what he pulled with the fist casts.

I can't even believe you wrote what you did. Then again, I don't know you that well so I shouldn't really be surprised at all.



And you have yet to write something that shows any honesty or knowledge about boxing and its history aside from posting lists and other writer's opinions. That in of itself makes you a peasant.

I don't worry much about what you have to say. Anyone who is more than willing to exaggerate Cotto's importance to the sport would also be more than willing to say that he is a HOF.

That's no surprise. You're a clown in that respect.

Cotto beating Mosley in 2007 when Mosley's biggest accomplishment since 2003 was beating Fernando Vargas was not Mosley's finest hour. Even then, Mosley should have won that fight or at the very least got a draw.

Bygones.

However, if you are claiming that Miguel Cotto is a HOF because he got the nod in that fight over Shane Mosley, and because he beat Yuri freakin Foreman who's biggest win came over Daniel Santos, then yes .. you're a fcuking idiot.

You "new" fans are pathetic and have no greater desire than to destroy boxing.

Look at the greats we have had in the last 10 years:

Roy Jones
Bernard Hopkins
Ricardo Lopez
Kostya Tszyu
Juan Manuel Marquez

These men have longevity at the top. They didn't flip flop all over the place. No one fight made or broke them. They showed excellence throughout their careers and only Jones stayed long enough to get old and became too stubborn to hang it up.

Cotto isn't even CLOSE to doing what those men did. For you to even suggest that he has shows that you have an agenda. You're not an honest fan, and you seek to make your favorites seem better than they really are.

You asked for it. Now you're about to get sat down, pimpslapped and have the wallet in which you keep your membership card to ******ity anonymous taken from you.

1 - Cotto competed for a vacant WBC belt against Cesar Bazan to claim that he was a champion at 140lbs. Then, Miguel competed for a vacant WBO 140lb belt against Kelson Pinto to beef up his credentials on PAPER. But who the fcuk are Bazan and Pinto?

2 - Then, as if 2 vacant titles weren't enough, Miguel Cotto then fought Carlos Quintana for the vacant WBA 147lbs title. Are you guys seeing the trend here? Are you forum members understanding the trend???

YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED A CHAMPION UNLESS YOU BEAT A CHAMPION FOR THAT DISTINCTION!!! What Cotto did was tantamount to being a lowly scavenger. He scrambled to fight lower fighters for table scraps that fell off the top tier.

3 - Later on when Miguel Cotto got his asss beaten half to death against Antonio Margarito and lost his vacant WBA 147 paper title, COTTO IMMEDIATELY COMPETED FOR THE VACANT WBO 147 paper title against Michael Jennings. Who the fcuk is Michael Jennings again?

4 - Two fights later, Cotto got yet another beating of a lifetime at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. Manny was very happy because he finally got his hands on a vacant WW paper title that Cotto had defended once.

After that last defeat, Cotto decided to move up in weight.

Guess what, people?

5 - For the first time in Miguel Cotto's career, he fought and won a world title that wasn't VACANT against Yuri Foreman. Whoopty fcuking doo.

Jrosales13, you have been weighed .. you have been measured .. and you have been found wanting. You are beneath me, and your foolish ideas about what true greatness is in the context of boxing legacies are laughable.

And that's why you just got mugged by this post.

You call Cotto a HOF'er and claim that he has had a great career. Then that means the above men I listed must be GODS because all current Top Rank fighters pale in comparison ... including Manny Pacquiao who, by the way, has used 5 vacant titles of his own to make his case for being an 8 division champion.

I guess its a Top Rank thing, huh?

Hahahahaha ... peasants and their dreams. You gotta pity them.

[Barry Halls]

SUPER WELTERWEIGHT (154 Lbs/ 69.85) Kgs)
SUPER CHAMPION: MIGUEL COTTO P.R.
World Champion: AUSTIN TROUT USA
1. ANTHONY MUNDINE AUS
2. NOBUHIRO ISHIDA JPN
3. PAWEL WOLAK POL
4. RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ MEX
5. PAUL WILLIAMS USA
6. ERISLANDY LARA CUB
7. CHARLIE OTA JPN
8. JONATHAN GONZALEZ (LAC) P.R.
9. CARLOS MOLINA MEX
10. YUKI NONAKA JPN
11. SERGEY RABCHENKO (WBA I/C) BEL
12. JEAN CARLOS PRADA D.R.
13. FRANK LOPORTO (PABA) AUS
14. SALIM LARBI (EBA) FRA
15. ADAM TRUPISH (NABA) CAN

So this is the ranking you speak of? Yeah scratch cotto vs marg 2, this list is gold! GOLD!
:wank::wank::wank:

mundine vs. cotto now!

[Las Vegas,]

I can't wait until Cotto gets his ass beat by Margarito again.

Hopefully this reality check lasts longer than the one you stans got in 2008.

[LaMigra]

Spoken like a true hater Brother Jay. Who should Cotto have fought for a "real belt?" And do us all a favor and dare NOT bring up that coward bastard Floyd. Do you REALLY think Floyd's victory over Gatti for a "real belt" is something Cotto would not have accomplished in 2 rounds against Gatti???

Fack outta here....

You seriously think Floyd in fighting Baldomir for a "real belt" is something that Cotto would have had trouble accomplishing??


***** sit your ass the **** down. You are NOT Freddy Pacheco. You are thesis writting, unemployed idiot trying do discredit a force in the sport like Miguel Cotto.

This is not wrestling... Real fans know when a quality fight is taking place and NO amounts of "real belts" are going to legitimize Floyd's opposition e.g. Baldomir and Gatti. By the same token, no "vacant title" is going to truly diminish a great fight. WE know what fights we wanna see and it usually has NOTHING to do with "belts." I rather see a non title fight e.g. Cotto vs Margarito than some gay ass "sweet science" featuring Floyd Mayweather.


See how I cut you in a few sentences. Quick and easy *****.

[The Big Dunn]

How is this fight legitimate? Margarito is coming off a beating ALL WHILE BEING BANNED. How the fcuk does that banned cheater and loser deserve a title shot at jrMW?

Do you even understand how rankings works?

I don't give a fcuk how much its anticipated. There are other boxers who have actually had to fight their way to title fights. Antonio Margarito deserves no special considerations. Especially at 154lbs and especially after what he pulled with the fist casts.

I can't even believe you wrote what you did. Then again, I don't know you that well so I shouldn't really be surprised at all.



And you have yet to write something that shows any honesty or knowledge about boxing and its history aside from posting lists and other writer's opinions. That in of itself makes you a peasant.

I don't worry much about what you have to say. Anyone who is more than willing to exaggerate Cotto's importance to the sport would also be more than willing to say that he is a HOF.

That's no surprise. You're a clown in that respect.

Cotto beating Mosley in 2007 when Mosley's biggest accomplishment since 2003 was beating Fernando Vargas was not Mosley's finest hour. Even then, Mosley should have won that fight or at the very least got a draw.

Bygones.

However, if you are claiming that Miguel Cotto is a HOF because he got the nod in that fight over Shane Mosley, and because he beat Yuri freakin Foreman who's biggest win came over Daniel Santos, then yes .. you're a fcuking idiot.

You "new" fans are pathetic and have no greater desire than to destroy boxing.

Look at the greats we have had in the last 10 years:

Roy Jones
Bernard Hopkins
Ricardo Lopez
Kostya Tszyu
Juan Manuel Marquez

These men have longevity at the top. They didn't flip flop all over the place. No one fight made or broke them. They showed excellence throughout their careers and only Jones stayed long enough to get old and became too stubborn to hang it up.

Cotto isn't even CLOSE to doing what those men did. For you to even suggest that he has shows that you have an agenda. You're not an honest fan, and you seek to make your favorites seem better than they really are.

You asked for it. Now you're about to get sat down, pimpslapped and have the wallet in which you keep your membership card to ******ity anonymous taken from you.

1 - Cotto competed for a vacant WBC belt against Cesar Bazan to claim that he was a champion at 140lbs. Then, Miguel competed for a vacant WBO 140lb belt against Kelson Pinto to beef up his credentials on PAPER. But who the fcuk are Bazan and Pinto?

2 - Then, as if 2 vacant titles weren't enough, Miguel Cotto then fought Carlos Quintana for the vacant WBA 147lbs title. Are you guys seeing the trend here? Are you forum members understanding the trend???

YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED A CHAMPION UNLESS YOU BEAT A CHAMPION FOR THAT DISTINCTION!!! What Cotto did was tantamount to being a lowly scavenger. He scrambled to fight lower fighters for table scraps that fell off the top tier.

3 - Later on when Miguel Cotto got his asss beaten half to death against Antonio Margarito and lost his vacant WBA 147 paper title, COTTO IMMEDIATELY COMPETED FOR THE VACANT WBO 147 paper title against Michael Jennings. Who the fcuk is Michael Jennings again?

4 - Two fights later, Cotto got yet another beating of a lifetime at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. Manny was very happy because he finally got his hands on a vacant WW paper title that Cotto had defended once.

After that last defeat, Cotto decided to move up in weight.

Guess what, people?

5 - For the first time in Miguel Cotto's career, he fought and won a world title that wasn't VACANT against Yuri Foreman. Whoopty fcuking doo.

Jrosales13, you have been weighed .. you have been measured .. and you have been found wanting. You are beneath me, and your foolish ideas about what true greatness is in the context of boxing legacies are laughable.

And that's why you just got mugged by this post.

You call Cotto a HOF'er and claim that he has had a great career. Then that means the above men I listed must be GODS because all current Top Rank fighters pale in comparison ... including Manny Pacquiao who, by the way, has used 5 vacant titles of his own to make his case for being an 8 division champion.

I guess its a Top Rank thing, huh?

Hahahahaha ... peasants and their dreams. You gotta pity them.

Dude Jrosale13 says hes NOT a HOF'er.

[IronDanHamza]

SUPER WELTERWEIGHT (154 Lbs/ 69.85) Kgs)
SUPER CHAMPION: MIGUEL COTTO P.R.
World Champion: AUSTIN TROUT USA
1. ANTHONY MUNDINE AUS
2. NOBUHIRO ISHIDA JPN
3. PAWEL WOLAK POL
4. RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ MEX
5. PAUL WILLIAMS USA
6. ERISLANDY LARA CUB
7. CHARLIE OTA JPN
8. JONATHAN GONZALEZ (LAC) P.R.
9. CARLOS MOLINA MEX
10. YUKI NONAKA JPN
11. SERGEY RABCHENKO (WBA I/C) BEL
12. JEAN CARLOS PRADA D.R.
13. FRANK LOPORTO (PABA) AUS
14. SALIM LARBI (EBA) FRA
15. ADAM TRUPISH (NABA) CAN

So this is the ranking you speak of? Yeah scratch cotto vs marg 2, this list is gold! GOLD!
:wank::wank::wank:

mundine vs. cotto now!

To be honest, the only reason I want to see this fight again is to see how Cotto handles Margarito's punches.

I'd rather see him fight Lara personally.