Why Cotto is a future Hall-of-Famer

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  • Iceta Lives
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    #81
    Originally posted by Brother Jay
    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    One is only called a "hater" when the opposing view has nothing credible or substantial to offer in rebuttal.

    Why ask me who Cotto "should have fought"?

    He should have fought champions who were at the top and defending their titles. That's who the fcuk he should have fought. He should have done something significant to establish a legacy instead of waiting for Bob Arum to set up future vacant title fights. That's what the fcuk he should have done.

    There is no excuse for EXCLUSIVELY competing for vacant belts to make your case as a top 140lbs and 147lb fighter.

    Some of you act as if this is so because I made it that way. I didn't. Go check Cotto's record and see for yourselves.

    I just brought out facts when opinions where your weapons of choice. You brought a knife to a gun fight and then accuse me of being a "hater" because I shut down any other recourse any of you simpletons might have .. that is, aside from posting videos of pundits sharing their own opinions about who is great.

    You peasants are nutsack jockeys because you CANNOT stand on your own and formulate a thought or opinion that isn't completely predicated on someone else's OPINION.

    Unbelievable. Grown men on this forum crying like women because Cotto wasn't even as dominant as Laila Ali.

    I'm amused at the way some of you think that you can debate facts and figures in an attempt to change how they are perceived.

    You can't. You can post a video of Muhammad Ali saying that Cotto is the greatest and it still doesn't make it so.

    A boxer has to actually DO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY to be considered great.

    Beat a HOF while that HOF is prime.

    Beat a legitimate P4P#1 fighter.

    Unify a division one belt at a time against the other champions.

    Remain undefeated in a career facing the top competition. Top competition being those ranked #1, 2 or 3 in a division.

    Win a world title FROM A CHAMPION and defend that title at least 10 times and show some longevity. Winning a title only to be beaten in your next fight eight months later IS NOT GREAT.

    I don't know what era of boxing some of you grew up watching and attending, but I can't think of a time when the bar was set as low as some of you suggest it should be set for Cotto to be seen as great for what he's done so far.

    This is some of the most insane crap I've ever read. Hahahaha.

    Some of you would do well to go rewatch Cotto's fights. Then go take a look at his record:

    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...3535&cat=boxer

    You obviously can't handle hearing the truth from me. Maybe reading it on a website will lessen the blow for some of you.

    Good luck with that.
    Is this Horus?

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    • LaMigra
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      #82
      Originally posted by Iceta Lives
      Is this Horus?
      Not Horus, it's Hater.


      I bet this kid thinks Floyd's accomplishments of beating Gatti and Baldomir are up there with the rest of the greats. Maybe that loss to Castillo will be overlooked.

      Don't get me started on Floyd beating a little Marquez and coming in over the weight limit to do so...


      ngga please.

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      • LaMigra
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        #83
        Originally posted by Brother Jay
        Corrales at the time of his death had a better legacy than Cotto.

        Diego lost to the Floyd Mayweather at SFW. Losing to the #1 is no shame.

        Diego also beat the #1 LW in the world when he beat Jose Luis Castillo.

        Cotto to date has NEVER beaten a #1 fighter in a division.

        Diego has had better fights. So has Gatti.

        Like Boxing Genius said, everybody has their opinions and that's fine. However until Miguel Cotto steps up and actually beats a reigning #1 champion, he hasn't done more than Chico Corrales.
        Lookie here: Cotto has 2 losses. BOTH of those losses are suspect. * *

        WHO has Floyd beaten for his gimmie-belts at 140 147 that Cotto would have struggled with?? Gatti? Baldomir??? You are a clown.

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        • tennis-legend
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          #84
          floyd lost to castillo

          losses dont take away ATG credentials otherwise ali getting raped with vaseline by holmes would ruin his legacy

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          • oc9979
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            #85
            Originally posted by tredh
            If Cotto beat the version of Mosley that Vernon Forrest beat then yes. But that is not the version of Mosley that Cotto beat. Cotto beat still good to very good Mosley but not the HOF version of Mosley.
            Margarito couldn't beat the version of Mosley that Cotto beat.

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            • Iceta Lives
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              #86
              Trying to say Cotto deserves to be in the HOF more than Floyd is just ******. I don't think very highly of Floyd's win over Oscar, but look how poor Cotto looked against a version of Mayorga. An even more faded one than De La Hoya absolutely ****d. Lol.

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                #87
                Cotto truely is a joy to watch. His skills are superb and his attitude is top notch. I love the guy, he's one of my all-time favorite fighters, but a future Hall of Famer? This is a tough one to call 'cause I would have liked Cotto's career to have reached that standard, but ultimately I don't feel it has. I don't think he's fought the level of opposition to warrant it. Nor, if I'm being honest do I feel that he's reached that standard himself. For me he just misses out, unless he does something spectacular with the fights that he has left in him.

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                • teddycanyon
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                  #88
                  As of now, Cotto is a no for the hall, but I think he still has a shot if he beats Marg and has four-five successful title defenses against TOP opposition and/or convincingly beats Sergio Martinez.

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