Why Cotto is a future Hall-of-Famer

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  • BoxingGenius27
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    #71
    This thread is full of comedy. I got my good laugh in for the day!

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    • datum
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      #72
      It's all subjective really. Compare his record to a guaranteed future HoFer.

      Mayweather Jr.
      Wins over Future HoFers
      Oscar de la Hoya
      Shane Mosley
      Juan Manuel Marquez

      Good wins
      Ricky Hatton
      Zab Judah
      Jose Luis Castillo
      Diego Corrales

      Decent Wins
      Carlos Baldomir
      Arturo Gatti
      Phillip N'dou
      Angel Manfredy
      Genaro Hernandez

      Undefeated, 5 division champ, 10 world titles. and people still complain about his legacy, understandbly.

      Cotto is close but no cigar.

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      • Brother Jay
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        #73
        LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

        One is only called a "hater" when the opposing view has nothing credible or substantial to offer in rebuttal.

        Why ask me who Cotto "should have fought"?

        He should have fought champions who were at the top and defending their titles. That's who the fcuk he should have fought. He should have done something significant to establish a legacy instead of waiting for Bob Arum to set up future vacant title fights. That's what the fcuk he should have done.

        There is no excuse for EXCLUSIVELY competing for vacant belts to make your case as a top 140lbs and 147lb fighter.

        Some of you act as if this is so because I made it that way. I didn't. Go check Cotto's record and see for yourselves.

        I just brought out facts when opinions where your weapons of choice. You brought a knife to a gun fight and then accuse me of being a "hater" because I shut down any other recourse any of you simpletons might have .. that is, aside from posting videos of pundits sharing their own opinions about who is great.

        You peasants are nutsack jockeys because you CANNOT stand on your own and formulate a thought or opinion that isn't completely predicated on someone else's OPINION.

        Unbelievable. Grown men on this forum crying like women because Cotto wasn't even as dominant as Laila Ali.

        I'm amused at the way some of you think that you can debate facts and figures in an attempt to change how they are perceived.

        You can't. You can post a video of Muhammad Ali saying that Cotto is the greatest and it still doesn't make it so.

        A boxer has to actually DO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY to be considered great.

        Beat a HOF while that HOF is prime.

        Beat a legitimate P4P#1 fighter.

        Unify a division one belt at a time against the other champions.

        Remain undefeated in a career facing the top competition. Top competition being those ranked #1, 2 or 3 in a division.

        Win a world title FROM A CHAMPION and defend that title at least 10 times and show some longevity. Winning a title only to be beaten in your next fight eight months later IS NOT GREAT.

        I don't know what era of boxing some of you grew up watching and attending, but I can't think of a time when the bar was set as low as some of you suggest it should be set for Cotto to be seen as great for what he's done so far.

        This is some of the most insane crap I've ever read. Hahahaha.

        Some of you would do well to go rewatch Cotto's fights. Then go take a look at his record:

        http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...3535&cat=boxer

        You obviously can't handle hearing the truth from me. Maybe reading it on a website will lessen the blow for some of you.

        Good luck with that.

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        • BoxingGenius27
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          #74
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Way, way too many.

          It's actually incredible. Nothing will consistently confuse me more than Pone Kingpetch constantly not being inducted into the HOF year after year.

          I hope the likes of Corales, Gatti, Cotto, Hatton etc etc etc don't get inducted before any of they do. But I fear that these fears are going to come true.
          I know you didn't dispute this, but I'm just gonna say it.

          Cotto is in a class or two above Corales, Gatti, and hatton, IMO.

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          • Deal With It
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            #75
            Never fought a top 5 Junior Welterweight during his entire run in the division.

            Lost half of his biggest fights @ Welterweight.

            Absolutely abyssmal run thus far @ Junior Middleweight (including this waste of time **** fight with Margarito)

            Never once dominated a prime elite opponent.

            Never once in his entire career has he beaten a #1 lineal divisional champion.

            Hall of famer?

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            • Deal With It
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              #76
              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
              I know you didn't dispute this, but I'm just gonna say it.

              Cotto is in a class or two above Corales, Gatti, and hatton, IMO.
              He's a slight step above Gatti, and more or less about on the same level as a Diego Corrales or Ricky Hatton.

              Corrales & Hatton have a few accomplishments in their career that Cotto has yet to acheive. So they might actually be ahead of Cotto.

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              • BoxingGenius27
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                #77
                Originally posted by Player3
                He's a slight step above Gatti, and more or less about on the same level as a Diego Corrales or Ricky Hatton.

                Corrales & Hatton have a few accomplishments in their career that Cotto has yet to acheive. So they might actually be ahead of Cotto.
                That's your opinion. I'm not gonna go to war for Cotto, so I'll leave it at that.

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                • Brother Jay
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Player3
                  He's a slight step above Gatti, and more or less about on the same level as a Diego Corrales or Ricky Hatton.

                  Corrales & Hatton have a few accomplishments in their career that Cotto has yet to acheive. So they might actually be ahead of Cotto.
                  Corrales at the time of his death had a better legacy than Cotto.

                  Diego lost to the Floyd Mayweather at SFW. Losing to the #1 is no shame.

                  Diego also beat the #1 LW in the world when he beat Jose Luis Castillo.

                  Cotto to date has NEVER beaten a #1 fighter in a division.

                  Diego has had better fights. So has Gatti.

                  Like Boxing Genius said, everybody has their opinions and that's fine. However until Miguel Cotto steps up and actually beats a reigning #1 champion, he hasn't done more than Chico Corrales.

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                  • tennis-legend
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                    #79
                    cotto has NEVER lost a fight

                    cheaterito wore knuckle dusters to his fight

                    AND....................maybe...........pac is on HGH

                    mayweather is scared of cotto

                    cotto is an ATG

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                    • Iceta Lives
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                      #80
                      I've got too big of a headache to reveal all the fighters who are either better than Cotto or have a better resume that are part of this era, but there is plenty. Trust me.

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