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Fighters like Leonard and Duran woud've had no problem fighting Sergio Martinez

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  • they were better tougher fighters from a greater era.

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    • Originally posted by prinzemanspopa View Post
      You're either taking the piss or simply aren't aware that fighters back then didn't have over 24 hours to rehydrate up to nearly 20 pounds.In todays era,Leonard and Hearns could have made 140 quite easily with the amount of time given to rehydrate after the initial weigh-in.
      I'm aware of that, which is why I said "eyeball test" meaning if id have to guess they would have rehydrated up that much giving their frame. There is no anyone would know for sure but by looking at things such as how wide their shoulders were, their height, frame and how muscular they were (from losing all that water weight) that they would go up that much if they rehydrated like fighters today.

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      • Originally posted by FootWork777 View Post
        Leonard moved up to fight Lalonde and Duran moved up to take on challengers such as Hagler and Barkley. This is why neither Floyd nor Manny are even close to their level. Yet so many Pac fans want to argue that he is the GOAT LMAO! I don't really see Floyd fans saying he's better than guys like Leonard and Duran who are certified ATG's. If either Leonard or Duran had the opportunity to fight Martinez best believe they'd take it.
        Considering SRL is 5ft10 and started out at WW, and Duran started at lightweight, but is naturally bigger than Pac and puts on weight easier.
        Considering Pac started much lower weight and you think he has to step up to exact same divisions and path SRL and Duran did.
        If you was for real you neednt have mentioned Pacs name, and mentioned Floyds only. Why dont floyd step up one division to fight Sergio, we still need the answer.?

        Pac has stepped up unprecedent amount of weights already in a way that will not be duplicated and now you are implying he hasnt even done what SRL and Duran have done?
        Get outta here african american boxer lover. Agenda, agendas, agenda.

        SRl waited until Hagler was shop worn before he dared to challenge Hagler as well.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 05-28-2011, 07:58 AM.

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        • Originally posted by FootWork777 View Post
          Man please, Manny fought his first ww fight against DLH in 2008. He is such a small ww but he got a bs belt in the 154lbs. weight division. Do you consider Pac an 8 division champ? If so why not fight Sergio at 154lbs.? I mean he did win Sergio's vacated belt at that weight division right? Btw, I'm not surprised to see you crying about Pac even though I mentioned Floyd as well. Typical!
          Who says he won't? My point is this; the rate at which you guys want Manny to fly through the weight classes is ridiculous. No one has ever done that yet Manny is suppose to? Whether you like to admit it or not, Manny just got to WW (officially) and now you want him to face the best MW in the world right now without giving him time to settle in this weight class is ridiculous.

          Also why are you so limited as a poster? I never see you talk about anything other than Manny and Floyd, so please step your posting game up son.

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          • Originally posted by Blah! View Post
            what's your point? those guys were massive and could afford to move up plenty more classes

            duran did **** all past ww and had visibly lost his hunger and was weight affected

            asking pacquiao to fight martinez is just plain ******
            Duran actually had some excellent wins above 147. Davey Moore and Iran Barkley was top notch.

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            • Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
              I'm aware of that, which is why I said "eyeball test" meaning if id have to guess they would have rehydrated up that much giving their frame. There is no anyone would know for sure but by looking at things such as how wide their shoulders were, their height, frame and how muscular they were (from losing all that water weight) that they would go up that much if they rehydrated like fighters today.
              Surely you are not suggesting that they went into the ring dehydrated?

              Take a break from posting.

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              • Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
                Who says he won't? My point is this; the rate at which you guys want Manny to fly through the weight classes is ridiculous. No one has ever done that yet Manny is suppose to? Whether you like to admit it or not, Manny just got to WW (officially) and now you want him to face the best MW in the world right now without giving him time to settle in this weight class is ridiculous.

                Also why are you so limited as a poster? I never see you talk about anything other than Manny and Floyd, so please step your posting game up son.
                The thing is Pac doesnt have to step up to face Sergio, Pac has established his reputation in stone already. Its time for Floyd to step up, not Pac.

                Footwork777 is just a joke you only need to look at his signature.

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                • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                  Footwork777 is just a joke you only need to look at his signature.



                  One only needs to take a quick glance at your signature and see what type of poster you are.You're a ****sucking newb with an Asian fetish and a limited amount of actual knowledge regarding this sport.



                  Get a life,you sick,perverted f^ck!

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                  • Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
                    Who says he won't? My point is this; the rate at which you guys want Manny to fly through the weight classes is ridiculous. No one has ever done that yet Manny is suppose to? Whether you like to admit it or not, Manny just got to WW (officially) and now you want him to face the best MW in the world right now without giving him time to settle in this weight class is ridiculous.

                    Also why are you so limited as a poster? I never see you talk about anything other than Manny and Floyd, so please step your posting game up son.
                    U know what,I used to want Pacman to fight Martinez,but that was more just me wanting to see him get beaten.Because Martinez is head & shoulders above every fighter that Pacman has fought at 140 & above.Every fighter.

                    I'm surprised that people still act like it's peds that helped Pacman so call perform so well.It's not peds.It was careful matchmaking/cherrypicking.Clottey is Pacman's most solid welterweight win,followed by Cotto.All his other fights were against half dead competition.

                    In ur post about what Pacman is expected to do.keep it real,no one was asking the world of him.Martinez would meet him at 154 he's owned a title there before.But I've come to terms with Pacman's career.It's a complete sham bro.Pacman just needs to go ahead & fight Marquez at welterweight,(like Floyd did) & have his fans defend it.Cause just like Floyd's career has been picked apart,Pacman's will be too.In a couple of years,when all the hype dies down,people will see his historic career as the well scripted farce that it has become.

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                    • Because yesterday didn't offer the money of today!! Simple!!

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