Fighters like Leonard and Duran woud've had no problem fighting Sergio Martinez

[SpitBalla]

Question big guy.So who expected Pacman to fight Martinez at 160??Martinez sure didn't.Also U & every other Pacfan,Roach included says Pacman can make 135,he isn't fighting Martinez,Floyd's been criticized for fighting Marquez at welterweight,but it's ok when Pacman strolls along & does the same **** right??

Marquez's own coach said, JMM fighting Floyd at 144 is completely different to fighting PAC at 144.

First of all May was 146, he came in overweight, and then he rehydrated to a huge size. Rumors were 155-160 pounds. And since Floyd refused to weigh in on fight night, obviously he was VERY heavy, otherwise why would he refuse to be weighed? So we can assume he weighted close to 160 pounds.

Manny on the other hand as an in ring weight of around 145. And this is what Marquez's coach reiterated, and JMM himself said the size difference that FLoyd had was unfair, and he could never have won because of that.

[Bushbaby]

Marquez's own coach said, JMM fighting Floyd at 144 is completely different to fighting PAC at 144.


It's called selling a fight.U know kinda like Mosley did.


First of all May was 146, he came in overweight, and then he rehydrated to a huge size. Rumors were 155-160 pounds. And since Floyd refused to weigh in on fight night, obviously he was VERY heavy, otherwise why would he refuse to be weighed? So we can assume he weighted close to 160 pounds.


Yes he did.I'm not gonna assume,like U are what he weighed.The fight was bull**** then,like Marquez at welterweight now.



Manny on the other hand as an in ring weight of around 145. And this is what Marquez's coach reiterated, and JMM himself said the size difference that FLoyd had was unfair, and he could never have won because of that.

Marquez struggled with fighters no where near as good as Pacman at 135,lightweight.Fighting a full blown welterweight(Pacman) at welterweight is the same as the 1st welterweight he fought.

[$tate of Mind]

Because yesterday didn't offer the money of today!! Simple!!

Yet Floyd and Manny have the opportunity to make career high pay days by fighting each other but they refuse to do so. This just shows that it's not about $ it's about level of risk.

[badass316]

Marquez struggled with fighters no where near as good as Pacman at 135,lightweight.Fighting a full blown welterweight(Pacman) at welterweight is the same as the 1st welterweight he fought.

There in lies your problem. Pacquiao isn't a full blown WW. He comes in on fight night at 147/148. No full blown WW comes in at that weight on fight night. That's the weight you'll see from either a LW or JrWW.

[Khalid X]

So if they had 24 hours they'd be heavier. That is what you are saying. That also means that they where not fully hydrated back then. LMAO.

Take a break from posting. I mean it.

Lol....whatever dude. I don't see why it's so hard to get the point I was trying to make.

If they knew, before the start of training camp, that they could drop down in weight, and have a 24 hour window to come in bigger than they normally would, chances are (giving their frame) that they would come in around the 160 mark.

No they weren't dehydrated when they fought because there is no way they could go 15 rounds against other elite fighters, all while performing at a high level.

How about you answer this; Against Their opponents at 154 and 160 did any of those guys look phyisically bigger than Hearns and Leonard? I wasnt alive to see those bouts, but from watching the videos of those bouts, not one time did I think "d@mn Ray or Tommy are giving up alot of size/weight to their opponents" even when they were fighting at MW. Why? Because there frames were alot bigger than our current crop of WW's.

Again I've stated several times that just my opinion and there really is no way to prove this other than going off of what I see from watching videos.

[Bushbaby]

There in lies your problem. Pacquiao isn't a full blown WW. He comes in on fight night at 147/148. No full blown WW comes in at that weight on fight night. That's the weight you'll see from either a LW or JrWW.

That's why they're fighting at welterweight then??Read what U just wrote bro.If Pacman was not a welterweight,why the **** would the fight be at welterweight then??There's a problem with this scenario all right,but the problem doesn't lie with those that are capable of seeing what's really going on.

[Clyde Barrow]

Martinez is a fucking MW. Why does anybody expect PBF or Pac to fight him?

[mushahadeen]

Martinez is a fucking MW. Why does anybody expect PBF or Pac to fight him?

nobody but rabid sergiosexuals on internet messageboards r clamoring 4 MARTINEZ VS. ANYBODY.

nobody in real life know who the hell martinez is, which is why he is a complete and total PPV FAILURE.

[BoxingFollower]

nobody but rabid sergiosexuals on internet messageboards r clamoring 4 MARTINEZ VS. ANYBODY.

nobody in real life know who the hell martinez is, which is why he is a complete and total PPV FAILURE.

Boxing fans know how Martinez is, if your a fan of boxing you know alot of fighters and the sport.

Pacquiao fans only know about Pacquiao.

[SplitSecond]

That's why they're fighting at welterweight then??Read what U just wrote bro.If Pacman was not a welterweight,why the **** would the fight be at welterweight then??There's a problem with this scenario all right,but the problem doesn't lie with those that are capable of seeing what's really going on.

dont stray from your original opinion, you clearly said pacquiao is a FULL-blown welterweight
i dont see him sweating down to 147 and blowing up to 150+ like 98% of the division

dont go using some bullsht excuse like "if he's not a welterweight why is he fighting at welterweigh" esspecially when i've seen you plenty of times saying he could easily make 140