Fighters like Leonard and Duran woud've had no problem fighting Sergio Martinez

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  • BoxingFollower
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    #141
    Originally posted by Blah!
    dont stray from your original opinion, you clearly said pacquiao is a FULL-blown welterweight
    i dont see him sweating down to 147 and blowing up to 150+ like 98% of the division

    esspecially when i've seen you plenty of times saying he could easily make 140
    Ahhh man just give it up. if Boxing Scene has a award show, and they gave the award to the biggest ******* of all time, you would win hands down, UD.

    Your just trying to enable Mannys cherry picking.

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    • sicko
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      #142
      Uh...it don't matter what it took for Ray Leonard to fight Hagler, Hearns or Donny Lalonde...THE POINT IS THAT HE FOUGHT THEM! Not only did he fight them but HE BEAT ALL OF THEM (sure many of them was controversial decisions I won't deny that)

      but with all of yall B!TCHING ABOUT CATCH WEIGHTS, you all forget one MAJOR FACTOR, nobody force these fighters to accept these fights at a Catchweight, that is somebody BOTH fighters have to agree upon

      Say what you want about Sugar Ray Leonard, but his LEGACY is already SET, it won't change now because a few people on a forum googled some **** and now they think they have ALL THE ANSWERS to Ray Leonard's career

      Ray Leonard was a LEGEND...YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT! I was a bigger fan of Hagler and Hearns as well but I would be ****** for me to try and deny Leonard's GREATNESS!

      Sergio is willing to come down to 154...you fought for his 154 title against Margarito...so you opened that possibility for that fight when you fought for a Title that HE VACATED, if Pacquiao never fought at 150-154 then yes then Sergio would be considered a "BULLY" because usually when guys issues Challenge it is usually within the same weight class or a weight class UP NOT A WEIGHT CLASS DOWN
      Last edited by sicko; 05-28-2011, 02:38 PM.

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      • SoZe
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        #143
        Fighters like Duran and Leonard would also be smart enough to not go on record as saying they feel a guy 8 lbs heavier (Bute, Ward) are "too big" for him, then go on the record talking about how they KO a guy 20 lb's lighter, like Pacquiao.

        I like Martinez but that made him look like the hypocrite of the year. He went on record as saying he won't fight any of the Super Middle's because he'd be giving up too much, then goes and challenges both Manny AND Floyd. He's a lot bigger than Manny, but he's bigger than Floyd, too. Breadman on ********** said it best, Martinez chose to add that bulk he now doesn't think he can cut to get back down to 154, but now he's stranded at 160 without any $ fights.

        But yeah, long story short, if Martinez feels justified in saying Bute & Ward are "too big" for him, than Manny is "too small" for him. It goes both ways.

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        • Medved
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          #144
          I didnt realize you were around with Leonard and Duran and they let you know this. I HATE WHEN PEOPLE PUT WORDS IN ATHLETES MOUTH

          "HE WOULDA DONE THIS, HE WOULDVE DONE THAT"

          To Quote Immortal Technique - Obnoxious

          But you know what the **** I think is just pathetic and gay
          When n!ggas speculate what the **** 'Pac would say
          You don't know ****, about a dead mans perspective
          And talking **** will get your neck bone disconnected
          Disrespected n!ggas don't show no love
          Why you trying to be hardcore, you ****ing ****-thug
          ^^ Thats for you OP
          Last edited by Medved; 05-28-2011, 03:39 PM.

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          • STFU!!
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            #145
            please, it took Leonard awhile before he fought hagler and that was because he got beat up in a war with some duide(forgot his name). also Leonard didn't fight hawk time.

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              #146
              Originally posted by sicko
              Uh...it don't matter what it took for Ray Leonard to fight Hagler, Hearns or Donny Lalonde...THE POINT IS THAT HE FOUGHT THEM! Not only did he fight them but HE BEAT ALL OF THEM (sure many of them was controversial decisions I won't deny that)

              but with all of yall B!TCHING ABOUT CATCH WEIGHTS, you all forget one MAJOR FACTOR, nobody force these fighters to accept these fights at a Catchweight, that is somebody BOTH fighters have to agree upon

              Say what you want about Sugar Ray Leonard, but his LEGACY is already SET, it won't change now because a few people on a forum googled some **** and now they think they have ALL THE ANSWERS to Ray Leonard's career

              Ray Leonard was a LEGEND...YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT! I was a bigger fan of Hagler and Hearns as well but I would be ****** for me to try and deny
              Leonard's GREATNESS!

              Sergio is willing to come down to 154...you fought for his 154 title against Margarito...so you opened that possibility for that fight when you fought for a Title that HE VACATED, if Pacquiao never fought at 150-154 then yes then Sergio would be considered a "BULLY" because usually when guys issues
              Challenge it is usually within the same weight class or a weight class UP NOT A WEIGHT CLASS DOWN
              Pacquiao 8th title is a fraud. He did not deserved it so you can't count it.

              You only count it to justify Sergio challenge.

              If you are a boxing fan, you should know that by now .

              A slow plodder like Margarito hurt him.

              Even though he manhandily beat Margarito

              Pacquiao knows Sergio will be too much to handle.

              Pacquiao knows his limits

              Unless you think he is superman

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