Fighters like Leonard and Duran woud've had no problem fighting Sergio Martinez

[loui_ludwig]

you ****** dumbass, the point was that if Duran came into his fights in the same physical condition as Pacquiao, they would be the same size.

in other words theyre naturally about the same size.

LOL, see that is what you guys are good at, name callings.

Yeah, Duran would be the same size of Pac at middleweight or super middleweight.

[Steak]

LOL, see that is what you guys are good at, name callings.

Yeah, Duran would be the same size of Pac at middleweight or super middleweight.

cong****, you made no ****in sense, and my point still stands. try not to be so blindly biased.

[loui_ludwig]

cong****, you made no ****in sense, and my point still stands. try not to be so blindly biased.

Point of what? You made no point. Biased, look whose talking.

[ALG United]

Leonard moved up to fight Lalonde and Duran moved up to take on challengers such as Hagler and Barkley. This is why neither Floyd nor Manny are even close to their level. Yet so many Pac fans want to argue that he is the GOAT LMAO! I don't really see Floyd fans saying he's better than guys like Leonard and Duran who are certified ATG's. If either Leonard or Duran had the opportunity to fight Martinez best believe they'd take it.

I have mad respect for both Duran and Leonard, specially Duran, Roberto fought them all at their prime. Leonard did too at some point, but when he fought Hagler, Hagler was already at the tail end of his career.. Those were the days when fighters have no problem winning or losing against a fellow ATG, they just want to fight at the top level.. That's why we have to push for a Manny-Floyd fight coz besides the two divas there are nobody else who can match their skills at their division, I think both can win over Martinez...

[Steak]

Point of what? You made no point. Biased, look whose talking.

I guess it mans nothing t you that Duran was blown up and fat, and that Pacquiao comes into fights at 145ish with an incredibly low body fat and ripped?

The Welterweight Pacquiao today was no smaller than Duran.

you ****** dumbass, the point was that if Duran came into his fights in the same physical condition as Pacquiao, they would be the same size.

in other words theyre naturally about the same size.

Dont worry, youll get this reading thing down eventually.

[ALG United]

you ****** dumbass, the point was that if Duran came into his fights in the same physical condition as Pacquiao, they would be the same size.

in other words theyre naturally about the same size.

Manny is listed at 5'5.5"-5'6" in height with 67" reach, Duran and Cotto has similar 5'7" height with 67" reach, so if Duran came in to his Middleweight fights ripped, he would have the same physical attributes as Miguel, he would still be bigger than Manny....

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

And to think I see posters rating Pac over these guys.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

Tell me,what straight male requests for another man to "blow" them? Are you a ****sexual? Regardless of what you are,you useless,ignorant,no-life having fat pile of sh^t,I've clearly hit a nerve with you.




In future,stick to discussing more recent topics and not topics that aren't limited to the last five years.










Outside of co-promoting a few of his major fights,Arum didn't have a damn thing to do with Leonard,you idiotic newb.He was the promoter of Hearns,Hagler and,after Don King got rid of him following his loss to Kirkland Laing,he was Duran's promoter.He certainly didn't have a damn thing to do with the development of Leonard as a star.



You wouldn't know this,though,because to know this,you'd have to have a reasonable amount of knowledge regarding this sport's history - and clearly you don't have that.

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ARUM "MAKING RAY LEONARD" read my post again, I basically said that Arum USED Ray Leonard Formula to BUILD UP OSCAR...and he HE DID! Especially with Oscar being a GOLD MEDAL WINNER HIMSELF!

Like I said in the other post, Winning A GOLD MEDAL WAS INSTANT STARDOM back then

The Point was that Ray Leonard and Arum WORKED TOGETHER...NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ARUM "MAKING RAY LEONARD"...but like I POSTED before....HE DID BUILD UP OSCAR AND PACQUIAO!

[puga]

you ****** dumbass, the point was that if Duran came into his fights in the same physical condition as Pacquiao, they would be the same size.

in other words theyre naturally about the same size.

thats a ****ing lie...pac fighting at jmw came in at fight night as a ww....had duran fought without the same day weight ins, he would've fouht as a jmw in a ww fight......huge difrence...

[AFighter4U]

Leonard moved up to fight Lalonde and Duran moved up to take on challengers such as Hagler and Barkley. This is why neither Floyd nor Manny are even close to their level. Yet so many Pac fans want to argue that he is the GOAT LMAO! I don't really see Floyd fans saying he's better than guys like Leonard and Duran who are certified ATG's. If either Leonard or Duran had the opportunity to fight Martinez best believe they'd take it.

at one point in time, Roach considered Cotto simply too big for Pac.

who knows? maybe one of these days Pac will fight at 154. at least i hope he will. Manny hasn't retired yet. Because of that, it would simply be presumptuous of us to say what he can or cannot do in his career.