Fighters like Leonard and Duran woud've had no problem fighting Sergio Martinez

[Toney616]

what's your point? those guys were massive and could afford to move up plenty more classes

What are you talking about? Duran fought at his fight night weight, which was 135 lbs. How can you be a massive lightweight when come fight night you walk into the ring at 135lbs? If he was fighting with the weigh ins pushed forward 24 hours dude could of been a Super bantamweight.

asking pacquiao to fight martinez is just plain ******

Its ****** to ask the reigning wbc jmw champion to defend his belt at jmw?

[Toney616]

Then why did he have alot of fights, at 140+, when he wasnt fighting his big fights at LW. It's well known that Duran cut a ton of weight prior to his fights because he always ballooned up in between fights.

Duran was an old skool fighter, which meant he had alot of fights to keep sharp, they weren't title bouts so he didn't have to cut that extra 5 lbs of fat

Him ballooning up in between fights was due to his partying lifestyle and nothing to do with him being a naturally big lightweight. Think Hatton at jww(140) who walks around at an obese 190 lbs

[fitefanSHO]

Duran @ 160 does not beat Maravilla, sorry.

[JDezi4]

Who says he won't? My point is this; the rate at which you guys want Manny to fly through the weight classes is ridiculous. No one has ever done that yet Manny is suppose to? Whether you like to admit it or not, Manny just got to WW (officially) and now you want him to face the best MW in the world right now without giving him time to settle in this weight class is ridiculous.

Also why are you so limited as a poster? I never see you talk about anything other than Manny and Floyd, so please step your posting game up son.

Stop ****ing crying. Manny's not gonna write u in his will if u blow him any harder. People want him to fight the middleweight champ becuz its a good fight. And the reasons people don't want the fight revolve purely the idea that Manny will lose. U hide it by pretending people r saying he HAS TO DO IT OR HE'S A *****.... Show me the legit posters on here that aren't *****s that have said that.

And who knows, if Martinez made 154, he may only rehydrate to 165 like Marg... He rehydrates to 168 when he weighs in at 160... only 8lbs. So how much should he rehydrate to when weighing in at 154?

[luke1979]

I'm not so sure about Duran but SRL would beat him for sure.

[SplitSecond]

What are you talking about? Duran fought at his fight night weight, which was 135 lbs. How can you be a massive lightweight when come fight night you walk into the ring at 135lbs? If he was fighting with the weigh ins pushed forward 24 hours dude could of been a Super bantamweight.

Its ****** to ask the reigning wbc jmw champion to defend his belt at jmw?

re-read my post plz,
what did you quote when you said

Come fight night they were around 146-147. Think same day weigh in

we/YOU were talking about leonard and hearns, and yes, they were ****in massive for ww

now re-read the rest of my post

duran did **** all past ww and had visibly lost his hunger and was weight affected

i never said duran was massive, get it right next time

[Khalid X]

Surely you are not suggesting that they went into the ring dehydrated?

Take a break from posting.

No. What I'm saying is giving both guys frame, if they had the 24-hour rule they would have probably came in that huge. Again their is no way to officially prove this but just going off the eyeball test and comparing how huge they are in comparison to current WW's its quite possible that they would.

With all of that said, those guys had the frame to move up to 160 and not be physically overmatched by other fighters. Can anyone honestly say both Floyd and Manny can fight at MW and not look like midgets in the ring with those guys?

[BattlingNelson]

No. What I'm saying is giving both guys frame, if they had the 24-hour rule they would have probably came in that huge. Again their is no way to officially prove this but just going off the eyeball test and comparing how huge they are in comparison to current WW's its quite possible that they would.

With all of that said, those guys had the frame to move up to 160 and not be physically overmatched by other fighters. Can anyone honestly say both Floyd and Manny can fight at MW and not look like midgets in the ring with those guys?

So if they had 24 hours they'd be heavier. That is what you are saying. That also means that they where not fully hydrated back then. LMAO.

Take a break from posting. I mean it.

[| THE KING |]

Yea! Pacroid is a fraud.. he should first go down to 135 and fight the 'challenger' marquez.. and IF he wins that fight.. he needs to go up to 160 and fight Martinez. If not Manny hasn't proved a thing.. he is a fraud.. all his fights are hand picked.. weight drained.. fixed.. corrupt. AND he takes PEDs that make him bullet proof..

[Bushbaby]

Yea! Pacroid is a fraud.. he should first go down to 135 and fight the 'challenger' marquez.. and IF he wins that fight.. he needs to go up to 160 and fight Martinez. If not Manny hasn't proved a thing.. he is a fraud.. all his fights are hand picked.. weight drained.. fixed.. corrupt. AND he takes PEDs that make him bullet proof..

Question big guy.So who expected Pacman to fight Martinez at 160??Martinez sure didn't.Also U & every other Pacfan,Roach included says Pacman can make 135,he isn't fighting Martinez,Floyd's been criticized for fighting Marquez at welterweight,but it's ok when Pacman strolls along & does the same **** right??