Who has a better defense? Locche or Mayweather?

[CarlosG815]

look at all the hate in this post



so calling floyd a better technician for the above reason and not a better defensive fighter is hate?

Don't try to twist words around, that is something trolls do, and I hope you are not a troll..

It is obvious that I was referring to another post you made where you downtalked all of Floyds opposition, now you are quoting one of your old posts and pointing at me saying "I call that hate" when I did not say that post had hate in it....

You know which post I was saying had hate in it, so why are you pointing to another and saying I'm calling it hate?

[CarlosG815]

lol you're one sensitive *****. you can't stop people from expressing their opinions on floyd...same as they can't stop you from licking floyd's balls.
guys are just comparing locche's opposition with floyd and clearly locche had the better one. i don't see any problem with that as it doesn't take anything away from your beloved floyd. floyd is still the better fighter and he could've done better. he has the tools to do so...he just chose to take it easy at some point in his boxing career like going on a premature retirement and taking vacations in between.

I am not a Floyd Mayweather fan, I am one who wants to see him lose. But that doesn't mean I don't respect his skills...

Since you're such an expert on Locche, why don't you explain how his resume is so superior? I am just waiting to peg you as somebody who knows nothing of Locche's career... Please, enlighten us all. I am very familiar with the career of Locche and am looking forward to your response...

[Walt Liquor]

Frazier was the only known to be great. Liston was thought to be a threat, but history will show that he was at the tail end of his career and would go on to do nothing. His era was over after his fight with Ali. Norton was always a top contender, but never a great. Foreman was NOT thought to be a "great" fighter like you claim. He was a good contender and had beat up on the opposition he had fought and going into his fight with Frazier was a 4-1 underdog. Frazier was the betting favorite despite being past it, half blind with a bad shoulder and looking fat and out of shape (look at the size of his ass when he fought Foreman).

Foreman wasn't in the discussion of being an ATG and if you look at any top 10 HW list PRIOR to his comeback, he will not be on it, yet now you will see him somewhere in the middle. Foreman would easily beat Frazier, yet would go on to get embarrassed in the jungle by Muhammad Ali, who himself was past it. Ali said Foreman was an easy fight for him.

Those guys you list were all awesome fighters, but to bring up Liston, Norton, Foreman, is like bringing up Chico, Mosley, and Hatton. I won't mention Oscar because I feel that in 2007 when Oscar came to fight Floyd he was still competing at a high level and at that time and in that condition was capable of beating anybody in the game at 154.

You talk about a laundry list, yet every fighter I list that Floyd has beaten you will just find a way to downtalk it, as I could do to any fighter but I try not to because I have respect for fighters, unless the mismatch is so blatantly obvious, as is the case with most of another guy's recent opposition...

wrong. i don't downtalk the mosley win, the castillo wins, the corrales win, the gennero beatdown.

liston is like corrales because why again? cuz he blasted out a couple guys like patterson in 1 right?

you're comparing a time when there were many many more solid contenders and generally better fighters around because there was 1 belt and boxing was still king sport.

now you talk about manny's horrible competition...why? you're saying floyd v bruseles, tata, jmm, sosa, sharmba, hatton at 147 weren't blatantly obvious? they are to me. sounds to me like you've been bitten by the floyd mancrush bug.

[jrosales13]

To me, Locche belongs with Whitaker and Pep as the greatest defensive fighters of all time. I think you can put those 3 in any order in the top 3. I have them 1a, 1b, and 1c. Again to me they're the greatest of all time as far as defense goes.

IMO Floyd belongs just below that with the likes of Benitez, Hopkins, and Toney.

[Walt Liquor]

Don't try to twist words around, that is something trolls do, and I hope you are not a troll..

It is obvious that I was referring to another post you made where you downtalked all of Floyds opposition, now you are quoting one of your old posts and pointing at me saying "I call that hate" when I did not say that post had hate in it....

You know which post I was saying had hate in it, so why are you pointing to another and saying I'm calling it hate?

here's the post, which you did not respond to.

every fight for floyd post castillo except for mosley (and oscar for obvious reasons) has been against a guy that was not the best guy around at that time- period.

[brick wall]

I am not a Floyd Mayweather fan, I am one who wants to see him lose. But that doesn't mean I don't respect his skills...

Since you're such an expert on Locche, why don't you explain how his resume is so superior? I am just waiting to peg you as somebody who knows nothing of Locche's career... Please, enlighten us all. I am very familiar with the career of Locche and am looking forward to your response...

it's really just about opinions. i think, and others think as well, that locche had the harder opposition. if you don't agree then so be it...i just don't understand that you're labeling people as haters if they have a different opinion from yours.

i'm not claiming to be an expert about locche either. but considering that the guy was not as physically gifted as floyd, as he only has 14 kos in 117 wins, i can say he relied on pure skills and superior defense...superior than floyd's.

[joseph5620]

it's really just about opinions. i think, and others think as well, that locche had the harder opposition. if you don't agree then so be it...i just don't understand that you're labeling people as haters if they have a different opinion from yours.
i'm not claiming to be an expert about locche either. but considering that the guy was not as physically gifted as floyd, as he only has 14 kos in 117 wins, i can say he relied on pure skills and superior defense...superior than floyd's.

You just called him a "*****" for having a different opinion from yours. Hypocritical much? I think he just exposed you for knowing nothing about Locche. You're basing an opinion on Locche's skills(opposed to Mayweather's) from your box rec look up for his number of KO's. Not smart.



Like Jrosales I put Locche in the category of Whitaker and Pep. Who I rate top 3 interchangeable. Mayweather's defense is more technical.

[brick wall]

You just called him a "*****" for having a different opinion from yours. Hypocritical much? I think he just exposed you for knowing nothing about Locche. You're basing an opinion on Locche skills(opposed to Mayweather's) from your box rec look up of his number of KO's. Not smart.

he comes off like a ***** so i called him a *****...what's hypocritical about that? if he didn't get butthurt i won't call him one.
i wasn't yet born when locche fought so my knowledge about him are based on youtube videos and yeah boxrec....what's yours?

Like Jrosales I put Locche in the category of Whitaker and Pep. who I rates top 3 interchangeable. Mayweather's defense is more technical

lol so your opinion is just like that of jro? nice one mr. copycat

[Mr. President]

you just said PROBABLY the greatest defense, so youre not sure about it yourself. this is not a debate for you since you dont know locche

Stay in your lane little man. I'v forgotten more about the sport of boxing then you'll ever know.

[Pernells_speed]

the *******s are gonna say lochhe so i have a better thread topic who is the most accomplished boxer in multiple weighclasses de la hoya or pacquiao..... i pick de la hoya.