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If you knew your boxing history you would know that Ali in his heyday was the most hated fighter. Nobody cared for his style as he was thought to be boring and with his big ****y mouth, everybody wanted to see him get shut up and lose. It wasn't until years later that Ali got the respect he had earned throughout his career and was called the greatest... In that aspect, yes, Floyd is like Ali in his heyday.... That fact isn't debatable. Floyd is the most hated guy in boxing and has been for a while now, as was Ali back in the day...
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You are beginning to just sound like a hater.
If you knew your boxing history you would know that Ali in his heyday was the most hated fighter. Nobody cared for his style as he was thought to be boring and with his big ****y mouth, everybody wanted to see him get shut up and lose. It wasn't until years later that Ali got the respect he had earned throughout his career and was called the greatest... In that aspect, yes, Floyd is like Ali in his heyday.... That fact isn't debatable. Floyd is the most hated guy in boxing and has been for a while now, as was Ali back in the day... -
Floyd is absolutely correct in what he says... He has no reason to lie and as you can see he is wise to the trend of the haters...
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I don't think oscar looked incredible and I don't think jmm looked anywhere near as active and quick as he did at 130-5.
locche fought plenty of ham n eggers, it happens when you have a 130 fights or so.
I was responding to comparisons you made in your post about floyd and everyone else in the world that ever existed.
if floyd had the number of fights and ring wear and tear that locche had, you would see his defense decline as well, so I'm not buying that argument.
as far as the bold goes, i never denied what you said, you're just going overboard on the floyd work ethic stuff, like locche didn't hone his skills through hard work and actual fights..lol!
and I can't believe you are actually trying to quote oscar! that guy says anything and everything and has zero credibility. everyone who beats oscar is the best fighter ever.Comment
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Mayweather edges it for me, he is just fundamentally brilliant, Locche is ridiculous though, its like watching a cartoon or a Comdey sketch
However Sweet pea is better then both, he had the fundamentals and pure natrual talent, he clowned about too much though.Last edited by Slick_Rick; 01-18-2011, 12:51 PM.Comment
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Floyd has outstanding defense when standing on the inside. but he ran away far more than Locche did. I honestly dont see how this is debatable. Do you people even watch Locche fights? the man was too unathletic to run around the ring, it would have exhausted him.
its like Floyd fans take it as a person insult if I dare to say a certain fighter does something better than Floyd. 'Simply' not true, wtf, I obviously said in the post that Floyd has excellent inside defense, simply that Locche did not depend more on his feet.
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'Julian Jackson hits harder than Floyd, although Floyd hits decently hard'
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'OH COME ON you must have not see a lot of Floyds fights, his power is super underrated, look at all these KOs!!!!!!Comment
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people knew at the time how great frazier, foreman, norton, liston etc. were comparing him to floyd's situation is laughable. who was the public clamoring for ali to fight that he never fought and outright avoided over and over again (we're talking bout multiple times with multiple different possible opponents).
if you are saying that floyd is like ali because he is unpopular, its still a ridiculous statement. ali was outright hated and had death threats. floyd's just a shi tty person. ali was hated for his principles, which is respectable. floyd, not so much- he has no principles.Comment
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Frazier was the only known to be great. Liston was thought to be a threat, but history will show that he was at the tail end of his career and would go on to do nothing. His era was over after his fight with Ali. Norton was always a top contender, but never a great. Foreman was NOT thought to be a "great" fighter like you claim. He was a good contender and had beat up on the opposition he had fought and going into his fight with Frazier was a 4-1 underdog. Frazier was the betting favorite despite being past it, half blind with a bad shoulder and looking fat and out of shape (look at the size of his ass when he fought Foreman).
Foreman wasn't in the discussion of being an ATG and if you look at any top 10 HW list PRIOR to his comeback, he will not be on it, yet now you will see him somewhere in the middle. Foreman would easily beat Frazier, yet would go on to get embarrassed in the jungle by Muhammad Ali, who himself was past it. Ali said Foreman was an easy fight for him.
Those guys you list were all awesome fighters, but to bring up Liston, Norton, Foreman, is like bringing up Chico, Mosley, and Hatton. I won't mention Oscar because I feel that in 2007 when Oscar came to fight Floyd he was still competing at a high level and at that time and in that condition was capable of beating anybody in the game at 154.
You talk about a laundry list, yet every fighter I list that Floyd has beaten you will just find a way to downtalk it, as I could do to any fighter but I try not to because I have respect for fighters, unless the mismatch is so blatantly obvious, as is the case with most of another guy's recent opposition...Comment
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lol you're one sensitive *****. you can't stop people from expressing their opinions on floyd...same as they can't stop you from licking floyd's balls.
guys are just comparing locche's opposition with floyd and clearly locche had the better one. i don't see any problem with that as it doesn't take anything away from your beloved floyd. floyd is still the better fighter and he could've done better. he has the tools to do so...he just chose to take it easy at some point in his boxing career like going on a premature retirement and taking vacations in between.Comment
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