whos greater all time Pacquiao or B-Hop?

[hugh grant]

Pac is greater, no contest. BH is still doing well, because his opponents expect an easy fight against him cos of his age, and underestimate him.

They go through the motions of training but dont train directly on how to beat BH, who thinks a lot on how to win as he is a old man. So he has the advantage as far as that goes.
I think pascal expects to beat BH in the rematch and dont think BH was anything special, other than he underestimated what the old dog could do, like a lot of people did.

I doubt margarito or cotto or clottey thinks they could have done much better against Pac.

[Russian Crushin]

Hmm, you're the one who wrote it buddy. We're on the internet. I can't sense sarcasm so easily.

There was no sarcasm

Its answer like that that divide a quality poster from a troll because you knew exactly what i meant

Its fun and all trolling but geez act like you're more then 7 sometimes

[Russian Crushin]

Berto is undefeated, talented, and has alot of hype around him. Similar to Jermain Taylor.

Cotto came off a brutal lost to Margarito and a gifted decision against Clottey.

Yes it would be better.

GEEEEEEEEEEZ

[Las Vegas,]

GEEEEEEEEEEZ

What's a better win, Jermain Taylor today, or Andre Berto?

[Russian Crushin]

What's a better win, Jermain Taylor today, or Andre Berto?

Again with this kind of troll crap? Really?

[Las Vegas,]

There was no sarcasm

Its answer like that that divide a quality poster from a troll because you knew exactly what i meant

Its fun and all trolling but geez act like you're more then 7 sometimes

You knew what I meant and it irritates you to the point where you call me a child. I'm merely picking apart your agruments and you don't like the fact that I'm not agreeing with you.

Am I the one insulting you? Calling you a ******* or a *****? Am I provoking you? No? So how exactly am I a troll? I'm trying to have an intelligent debate with you mister!

[Las Vegas,]

For who and when?

Anyone. What's a better win? Jermain Taylor of TODAY or Andre Berto of TODAY?

[Russian Crushin]

You knew what I meant and it irritates you to the point where you call me a child. I'm merely picking apart your agruments and you don't like the fact that I'm not agreeing with you.

Am I the one insulting you? Calling you a ******* or a *****? Am I provoking you? No? So how exactly am I a troll? I'm trying to have an intelligent debate with you mister!

No you are simply manipulating by point by taking the praise literally

There was nothing intelligent with your recent post, nothing. Just typical Troll crap from a complete troll poster who cannot have a serious convo, not even once

[Jeff Da Maori]

BHop.

20 Title defenses > 8 paper titles

Considering how Bhop took on ALL challengers. Pacquiao fights whoever Bob Arum wants him to fight BHop has made a career of defeating those "next big stars". His only 3 loses in the past 17 years have all been conversational where arguably he could of won all 3 fights. Pacquiao has beaten guys who have already established there career and only fought them based on there name and past accomplishments. Also BHop is an old man. He's nearly 50 years old and he's STILL dominating the sport and defeating those "next big stars" of today.

What's the point of having 8 titles if you don't want to defend any of them? If Martinez wants to challenge for the 154 pound belt, he can't because he's "too big"....then why have the belt in the first place? The point of being a champion is to defend your fucking belt not using it as a prompt to make you look good.


This is no contest. Whoever says Pacquiao is a *******. Plain and simple. I doubt they even watched a Bhop fight before.
Bernard is one of the top 3 middleweights of ALL time.

That's pretty much my opinion too

[Steak]

Berto is a slightly better win today than Taylor is, although before the Abraham loss Id have said Taylor.

Cotto's controversial win over Clottey is still better than Berto's controversial win over Collazo, and Cotto's line of work before the Margarito fight also speaks for him. not to mention since then hes won a decent victory over Foreman. not great...but at least as good as anything Berto has done in his career so far.

Cotto then>Berto now.