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    #31
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    Point is, its who you beat, not they are young and hungry but WHO YOU BEAT
    Roy Jones beat James Toney, and John Ruiz. Is he considering the greatest fighter of all time?

    This is where the discrediting comes from.

    Bernard can call out Trinidad, Ali, Jones a 3rd time, Louis, etcetc. He can beat ALI! He has Ali on his resume. Is Bernard the greatest of all time now? He beat Ali bro. Oh wait.....Ali is past his prime.....but you said it's WHO YOU BEAT right? They gotta have a name bro. They really do. Beating Ali is way better than beating an undefeated star. Right?

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      #32
      Originally posted by [KLTP] -Kirby-
      Roy Jones beat James Toney, and John Ruiz. Is he considering the greatest fighter of all time?

      This is where the discrediting comes from.

      Bernard can call out Trinidad, Ali, Jones a 3rd time, Louis, etcetc. He can beat ALI! He has Ali on his resume. Is Bernard the greatest of all time now? He beat Ali bro. Oh wait.....Ali is past his prime.....but you said it's WHO YOU BEAT right?
      I think its pretty obvious he didnt mean it like that. Who you beat does matter much more than # of title defences.

      both of them have very good wins.

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        #33
        Originally posted by blackirish137
        I think its pretty obvious he didnt mean it like that. Who you beat does matter much more than # of title defences.

        both of them have very good wins.
        Exactly, but like I said. It's very hard to ignore his title reign just like it's very hard to ignore Pacquiao's 8 world titles. They add to the resume.

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          #34
          Originally posted by [KLTP] -Kirby-
          Roy Jones beat James Toney, and John Ruiz. Is he considering the greatest fighter of all time?

          This is where the discrediting comes from.

          Bernard can call out Trinidad, Ali, Jones a 3rd time, Louis, etcetc. He can beat ALI! He has Ali on his resume. Is Bernard the greatest of all time now? He beat Ali bro. Oh wait.....Ali is past his prime.....but you said it's WHO YOU BEAT right? They gotta have a name bro. They really do. Beating Ali is way better than beating an undefeated star. Right?
          Cmon dont play dumb

          Plus Hopkins is regarded higher then RJJ so i dont know why you kept bringing him up

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            #35
            Originally posted by boxing2106
            uhm wrong ! hes defending his 154 belt at 148 vs mosley ! im pretty sure arums move is hopeing that cotto wins his rematch vs margarito to make cotto and pac rematch unification at 154

            LMAO!!! If you want to dispute something, at least do some research. Pacquiao and Mosley are fighting for Pacquiao's WBO 147 belt...

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              #36
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              Cmon dont play dumb
              I'm not playing dumb bro. That's what you said. Pacquiao has big names on his resume. BIG NAMES! Yet...look at the past history of the fighters. I'm not playing dumb, this is where discrediting comes from. I'm glad you brought it up.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                Point is, its who you beat, not they are young and hungry but WHO YOU BEAT
                an undefeated tito trinidad number 1 p4p at the time. oscar de la hoya, winky wright, kelly pavlik, antonio tarver, roy jones jr, must i say more ?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by [KLTP] -Kirby-
                  Exactly, but like I said. It's very hard to ignore his title reign just like it's very hard to ignore Pacquiao's 8 world titles. They add to the resume.
                  8 world titles my ass. Im not counting **** ass paper titles. the fact that people count both paper titles and linear titles is completely grasping at straws. thats, what 5 titles he could have gone after per weight class? maybe 6, knowing the WBA....

                  I, in fact, ignore both title defences and paper titles. Theyre both ******, hyped up numbers that mean nothing.

                  the people they beat and when and how is what matters.

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                    #39
                    Geez cant have a decent convo without these *****s acting like 6 year old ******s

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by boxing2106
                      an undefeated tito trinidad number 1 p4p at the time. oscar de la hoya, winky wright, kelly pavlik, antonio tarver, roy jones jr, must i say more ?
                      only a numbsull would think anything of the Jones Jr win.

                      I dont think much of Pascal, Ive always thought he was mediocre, but the fact is that he was highly rated (although in an extremely weak division), and Hopkins clearly deserved a win over him at what, 45?

                      thats quite an accomplishment,

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