whos greater all time Pacquiao or B-Hop?

[Las Vegas,]

Taylor only got KTFO in a fight he was arguably winning, over someone who controversially lost to Kessler and totally dominated Abraham recently.

He was still a decent fighter.


also Lacy had been shot to **** for forever, it wasnt a big deal at all when Taylor beat him. All three of his wins prior were controversial, most notably against Mendoza who battered him arond the ring, causing Lacy to retire after the bout.
Foreman aint the best fighter, but at least he had beaten an undertrained Dan Santos prior to fighting Cotto.

Obviously Taylor was still a decent fighter, but he wasn't the fighter he once was just like Cotto. That's what I'm trying to say.

[Steak]

Obviously Taylor was still a decent fighter, but he wasn't the fighter he once was just like Cotto. That's what I'm trying to say.

and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Pacquiao did not fight a prime Cotto.

I still dont think Berto is as good as Cotto, since he has done nothing at all to prove it. Hes not even beating up 140lbs like should be, Alexander beat Urango more impressivly than did Berto.

[Las Vegas,]

and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Pacquiao did not fight a prime Cotto.

I still dont think Berto is as good as Cotto, since he has done nothing at all to prove it. Hes not even beating up 140lbs like should be, Alexander beat Urango more impressivly than did Berto.

Yet, Alexander wasn't even considered to fight Pacquiao. That's the thing about Berto. Sure he's destroying bums like Prince Naseem did back in the day, but he just like Naseem has talent. HBO obviously sees something in him and even though people hate his guts, I have a feeling the kid is gonna be a huge star.

[Steak]

Yet, Alexander wasn't even considered to fight Pacquiao. That's the thing about Berto. Sure he's destroying bums like Prince Naseem did back in the day, but he just like Naseem has talent. HBO obviously sees something in him and even though people hate his guts, I have a feeling the kid is gonna be a huge star.

the difference being that Hamed actually won his title off a champion, and one that was rated in the top 3 of the division, and within his first year of being champ knocked out another top 5 ranked guy, and the year after that KOed the best guy in the division...

Berto has had one controversial fight with a fringe contender, looked bad against a 140lber, and....nope thats it, no other top opponents.

[Las Vegas,]

the difference being that Hamed actually won his title off a champion, and one that was rated in the top 3 of the division, and within his first year of being champ knocked out another top 5 ranked guy, and the year after that KOed the best guy in the division...

Berto has had one controversial fight with a fringe contender, looked bad against a 140lber, and....nope thats it, no other top opponents.

Patience my boy. The time will come. The Prince didn't just magically wake up against Kelley. He had to work to way his way up just like Berto is now. The difference is, Berto's adviser is Al Haymon. He's already a cherry picker. Not only that, alot of people hate his guts. That's money. People want to see him lose.

Also lets not forget he was suppose to goahead and fight Shane. It's not like the earthquake in Haiti magically happened because Berto wanted to pass.

[Steak]

Patience my boy. The time will come. The Prince didn't just magically wake up against Kelley. He had to work to way his way up just like Berto is now. The difference is, Berto's adviser is Al Haymon. He's already a cherry picker. Not only that, alot of people hate his guts. That's money. People want to see him lose.

Also lets not forget he was suppose to goahead and fight Shane. It's not like the earthquake in Haiti magically happened because Berto wanted to pass.

...But Hamed beat Steve Robinson to gain the title, 2 years before facing Kelley, and then beat Manuel Medina, then unified with Tom Johnson in less than two years, which is shorter than the amount of time Berto has held his title.

[Barry Halls]

Pacs resume stomps on b-hops name for name.
I might be as impressed with hopkins career as a whole, given his age etc as i am with Pacs tho.

[JDezi4]

All the poll proves is Pacquiao has more fans. No surprise there

[hugh grant]

I guess Trinidad, Glenn, Taylor, Pavlik took him lightly also. 4 guys at the very top of their game. He just went to Pascal's hometown and worked him in front of his fans, I'm still waiting for PAC to come to the east coast.

Well Pavilk isnt a HOF and that good anyway, trinidad small dude who werent that great, but could punch hard. JT beat him, so Pavlik probably felt he would as well.

I would think Pascal expects to beat BH in the rematch and do much better, i doubt Cotto thinks he could have beat pac anyday. Cotto said Pac is the best fighter in the world and the best he ever fought. I dont think Pascal did or JC! I dont think RJJ thinks BH is top 3ATG after losing to BH. I doubt DLH thinks BH is better as well, after being pummelled to defeat by pac.
Yes Pac is better than BH but we all knew that. But if you want to discuss whether Floyd is as good as BH that is another story and more comparable.

[straightleft]

People forgot if Pac stayed at 130 or 135 he will never reach the status what he got now.