True or False: Pacquiao's Welter Resume>>>Floyd's
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I think you should do a bit of research on Clottey since you obviously haven't seen too much of him. He may not have wins over them but Clottey has Margs (back when people wanted no part of him), Cotto, and Pacquiao on his resume. Those 3 alone pretty much trump anything PBF has on his WW resume.
Uhhh... No, Baldomir was not a better win than either Cotto or Clottey, let alone combined (which is utterly laughable). No one even knew Baldomir existed before his win against an uninspired and unprepared Zab.
Cotto was weight drained? Cotto came in at 146 in his last fight against Clottey, which is a 1 pound difference in his next fight. So how is that exactly a weight drained Cotto? He certainly didn't look weight drained in the first 4 rounds of that fight, as he gave Pacquiao his toughest test since moving up in weight.1) Cotto was weight-drained thus giving Manny an unfair advantage. Had the fight been at 147, it would have been more competitive. Manny would have still won, but not as brutally - Cotto would have put up a much better fight.
2) Clottey was coming off the back of a loss to Cotto, and hadn't fought in 9 months.
So what if he hadn't fought in 9 months? Is that supposed to be an excuse as to why Clottey didn't win the fight? Whether you like it or not, Clottey was a big, tough, and rugged welterweight when Pacquiao fought him. He was in the top 5 for a reason.
How exactly is he overrated? If he is overrated that's news to me. He certainly isn't overrated on this board. His win over Judah was close? Maybe you should actually DL and watch the fight, before coming to conclusions. Clottey was busting Zab up in that fight and was on his way to stopping him.3) Clottey is way over-rated - his only world-title was the vacant IBF title and he won it over a past-prime Zab Judah via a close technical decision.
4) Baldomir was lineal champion. Cotto was never been lineal champion at Welterweight, and Clottey (lol) he'll probably never win another world title let alone a lineal title.
So just because Baldomir was lineal champion he's automatically better than Cotto and Clottey...
I knew it was a waste of time to comment, I should have just skipped to reading your last point and just stopped. That pretty much tells me all I need to know.Comment
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Lineal champion or not, but Baldomir is the David Diaz equivalent.Baldomir was definitely a better win than Cotto and Clottey combined:
1) Cotto was weight-drained thus giving Manny an unfair advantage. Had the fight been at 147, it would have been more competitive. Manny would have still won, but not as brutally - Cotto would have put up a much better fight.
2) Clottey was coming off the back of a loss to Cotto, and hadn't fought in 9 months.
3) Clottey is way over-rated - his only world-title was the vacant IBF title and he won it over a past-prime Zab Judah via a close technical decision.
4) Baldomir was lineal champion. Cotto was never been lineal champion at Welterweight, and Clottey (lol) he'll probably never win another world title let alone a lineal title.Comment
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......OK, here's the thing.I think you should do a bit of research on Clottey since you obviously haven't seen too much of him. He may not have wins over them but Clottey has Margs (back when people wanted no part of him), Cotto, and Pacquiao on his resume. Those 3 alone pretty much trump anything PBF has on his WW resume.
To have them on your resume and to argue he's better than someone, you kinda have to use names that he actually beat. Not people he just fought.
Saying his resume at 147 is better than Mayweathers merely because he fought Margarito, Cotto and Pacqiauo is just plain ridiculous.
I guess Demarcus Corley an ATG also? He has names such as;
Mayweather
Cotto
Witter
Judah
Alexander
Maidana
All on his resume, right?Comment
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Wow... Can't believe anyone at all voted for Floyd.. It is a given, pacquiao by far. Given the results of the poll, I am surprised the thread is not reflective of it with so many *****s being defensive...It seems like 1 ***** talk as much as 10 boxing fans... No wonder why so many *****s think that everyone thinks like them, the illusion set by their fellow *****s.Comment
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manny fought cotto clottey and oscar now which one of those fighters were ranked #1?
floyd beat shane and baldomir who were both the #1 ww at the time so how is manny ww resume better?Comment
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clottey: was told not to punch back,a bag would do better that night.Pacquiao's WW resume (2 years):
De La Hoya (Super Welter, 150 CW fight before Pac)
Cotto
Clottey
Margarito (150 CW, but we've been told over and over again Pac's 8th divisional belt is not legit and Tony was just a blown up welter)
Mosley
Floyd's WW resume (6 years):
Mitchell
Judah
Baldomir
Hatton (light-welter)
JMM (lightweight)
Mosley
So who has the better WW resume? Vote and discuss.
*Just for argument's sake, let's assume Pac wins against Mosley*
cotto: damaged by margarito,no coach in the corner.
Oscar: weight drained,floyds leftover.
Margarito: had to lose weight,got smashed by mosley..damaged good.
Mosley: floyds 3rd leftover,old,looked sh** in his last two fights.Comment


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