ESPN Dan Rafael's 140 division ranking [Dec. 14th, 2010]

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #41
    I think its reasonably close who is #1 but i would say Bradley is #1 and Khan is #2 and there is no doubt that either of those fighters are not lower than #2.

    As for Dan's rankings there suprisingly not as terrible as usual even though they are pretty bad.

    My ranking;

    1.Bradley
    2.Khan
    3.Alexander
    4.Kotelnik
    5.Maidanna

    *ranking 3 and 4 was a struggle for me because as i think Kotelnik won the fight with Devon the fact is he didnt get the descion, other than that i personally feel Alexanders resume is better than Kotelniks, thats why i ranked him higher but i would understand if someone felt Kotelnik is #3 over Devon.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 12-16-2010, 02:09 PM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
      lmao...i never mentioned u buddy. calm down. but i doooo think u overrate khan a tad bit.
      Khan's the best in the division.

      He's the biggest, fastest, throws the best combinations, has the best jab, and has the best trainer and conditioning coach. He also has good movement and a decent defense. Proved he can take a punch too.

      Bradley is much smaller, he's fast but not as fast as Khan (he admitted so himself). Intelligent. He's feather-fisted compared to Khan. Probably slightly more skilled. Has a decent chin, but has been dropped in the past.

      Khan also has the best resume.

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      • jrosales13
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        #43
        Originally posted by £-4-£
        Khan's the best in the division.

        He's the biggest, fastest, throws the best combinations, has the best jab, and has the best trainer and conditioning coach. He also has good movement and a decent defense. Proved he can take a punch too.

        Bradley is much smaller, he's fast but not as fast as Khan (he admitted so himself). Intelligent. He's feather-fisted compared to Khan. Probably slightly more skilled. Has a decent chin, but has been dropped in the past.

        Khan also has the best resume.

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        • RichCCFC
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          #44
          Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
          Witter,Kotelnik,Urango & never being ko'd ends ur brilliant theory,thanks for the attempt though!!When I said he fought hard,I didn't say he won,it was a draw at best,in my honest opinion,this was his toughest fight!!But 1 bad night doesn't make him garbage homey,what happened to Khan in his toughest fight with someone not named Maidana,yeah,that's what I thought!!
          1 bad night for Khan doesn't make him garbage homie (Prescott)

          Maidana>Urango
          Kotelnik=Kotelnik
          Malignaggi>Witter
          Salita>Corley

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          • S.G.
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            #45
            1. Bradley
            2. Khan
            3. Kotelnik
            4. Maidana
            5. Alexander
            6. Ortiz
            7. Peterson
            8. Mabuza
            9. Matthysse
            10. Judah

            My rankings, using my own scoring of the recent fights amongst them (Kotelnik-Alexander, Matthysse-Judah) rather than the official judging. A lot of talk of 140lbs being a strong division but half of my ten looked poor in their last fight.

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              #46
              Originally posted by £-4-£
              Khan's the best in the division.

              He's the biggest, fastest, throws the best combinations, has the best jab, and has the best trainer and conditioning coach. He also has good movement and a decent defense. Proved he can take a punch too.

              Bradley is much smaller, he's fast but not as fast as Khan (he admitted so himself). Intelligent. He's feather-fisted compared to Khan. Probably slightly more skilled. Has a decent chin, but has been dropped in the past.

              Khan also has the best resume.
              he'll be the best when he proves it. he didnt look like the best when he fought maidana, thats for sure. so u can say he has all of these qualities. but u fail to mention his lax defense, his poor ring generalship, his poor headmoevement etc. then u'll say he's still young! lol...he's the best when he beats the best. the best in the division for the last 3 years has been tim bradley. nothings changed after one fight in which he went life and death.

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                #47
                Originally posted by RichCCFC
                1 bad night for Khan doesn't make him garbage homie (Prescott)

                Maidana>Urango
                Kotelnik=Kotelnik
                Malignaggi>Witter
                Salita>Corley
                no and no. seriously, where do they find u guys at???

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  You like all over the place.

                  I am not comparing Khan to Alexander. I am talking about how you have Khan over Bradley.

                  You mentioned a Bradley win over Witter but Witter being past prime. Yet didn't mention the same thing for Khan in the Malignaggi win. Just seem pretty bias to me.

                  And, now you're saying that Khan would beat a prime...You don't get extra credit for what would of happen, you get credit for what you did. And, we don't know how a prime Malignaggi does...That is just an opinion why not deal with facts? That is like me saying Bradley would beat a prime Witter anyways so why not give him credit for beating a prime Witter? Do you get what I am saying. What I do know for a fact is that Witter was rank #1 when Bradley beat him.

                  There is no argument that anybody can make to have Khan over Bradley at 140.

                  Also another thing again I have no problem with anybody ranking Kotelnik #3 and Alexander #4. That is perfectly fine but it is the way you word stuff...Kotelnik does not have a win over Alexander. If you had Kotelnik winning that is fine, I had Kotelnik winning also. However, technically Alexander has that win. Go look at every single record book Alexander has that W. You can Kotelnik has a controversial lost to Alexander or was robbed against Kotelnik but to say he has a win when technically doesn't makes it untrue.
                  I'm a Khan fan, yes. But I also like Bradley. So I've tried to be impartial.

                  Khan's resume at 140, in my opinion, is better than Bradley's. That's why I've ranked him at number1.

                  Kotelnik doesn't officially have a win over Alexander, no. But the common consensus on here is that Kotelnik won. Therefore Kotelnik should be ranked higher than Alexander.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                    he'll be the best when he proves it. he didnt look like the best when he fought maidana, thats for sure. so u can say he has all of these qualities. but u fail to mention his lax defense, his poor ring generalship, his poor headmoevement etc. then u'll say he's still young! lol...he's the best when he beats the best. the best in the division for the last 3 years has been tim bradley. nothings changed after one fight in which he went life and death.
                    Last time I checked Hatton was the lineal champion up until only 18months ago. Then Pacquiao took over.

                    Bradley has been the best in the division for the last year or so since Hatton's demise. But I believe Khan over took him by beating Maidana.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Khan is far superior in terms of power compared to Bradley. The stats say it all.

                      Bradley's 42% KO ratio compared to Khan's 68%.

                      Bradley couldn't rock Maidana or snap his head back with his punches, let alone put Maidana down (and almost out) with a body shot.

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