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    #61
    Originally posted by Jcsuper
    lol, its in these types of thread you can see who are the guys that follows boxing since only 1 or 2 years. Oscar way bigger than Floyd and Pacquiao are/will ever be.
    Well see, that's what I think too. I got into boxing because of Oscar, TBH. I was probably about 8 years old when I saw him on the cover of a Ring Magazine, that I bought. Even before Mike Tyson, and RJJ, I was always an Oscar diehard. And I'm from Canada! (Across the river from Detroit though!) I can attest, that Oscar's influence runs WAY further than that of both Floyd and Manny! (Although Manny is catching up, and at this rate, COULD surpass DLH.) The only person of the last 25 years who poses a threat in terms of drawing power, to Oscar is Mike Tyson. No ifs, ands, or buts. That's it. Ask any casual sports fan you know, and I promise those are the first two boxers names out of their mouth. (Or possibly Ali.) Those two fighters are head and shoulders above the rest in terms of drawing power. And it can't even be argued.

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      #62
      Originally posted by kadyo
      LOL, hope somebody will come up with average PPV per fight and we'll see. I still feel it's hoya though.
      I am going to do one tomorrow.

      But, I think is only fair to count HBO PPVs because of HBO budget.

      I don't think is fair to count the low budget independent PPV that Pac had in the lower weight-class.

      And, I know for sure Floyd number will be bigger on average while Pac it will be really really close...

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        #63
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I don't care what you know, the fact is people have internet more so than they had the black box and a card writer at the time. So that argument is moot.

        Now Pac and Floyd are bigger than Oscar ever was.

        You really not saying shit the question is now, and right now they're bigger than Oscar ever was.

        You're the one who is going to Burner and Horus standards by making excuses on why Floyd and Pac are bigger now. Saying if Oscar was fighting this era blah blah blah...
        Floyd and Pac are bigger than Oscar ever was?

        Oscar was a mainstream celebrity, not just boxing star, but mainstream celebrity the moment he won a gold medal. Let me say it again,

        he became a mainstream celebrity once he won a gold medal in the Olympics. People who never, ever watched boxing, tuned in to see "The Golden Boy".

        He was a star from the jump, his first pro fight, and didn't need to latch onto anyones coattails to make a name for himself.

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          #64
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          No, he helped more than some. Oscar biggest PPV was 1.4 against Tito...Was that all Oscar too? Did Tito not helped? really?

          And, Oscar-Floyd did a million more than what Oscar-Tito did. So yes he helped more than just some.

          And, Oscar did less than f00k against sturm(in a record winning title fight) So what is your point?
          Sturm was a nobody back then(and still is regarding attraction/draw). Put Floyd against Malinangi or Campbell, that **** will not sell 1 million.

          Todays advancement in advertisement helped Floyd and Pac. If it was available during the beginning of Oscar, he probalby have 3-4 more 1 million ppv sell.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Jcsuper
            lol, its in these types of thread you can see who are the guys that follows boxing since only 1 or 2 years. Oscar way bigger than Floyd and Pacquiao are/will ever be.
            (meant no)this makes no sense..ive been following boxing more than a couple years..its just a topic that i wanted people on here to discuss and there are alot of credible arguments.
            by the way, gsp!!

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              #66
              Originally posted by loui_ludwig
              Does anybody have links to Floyd and Pac's ppv history?

              Will Floyd and Pac sell more than 1 million ppv if they did not fight Oscar? My opinion, no.
              That doesn't matter at all with the question at hand...

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                #67
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Now Pac and Floyd are bigger than Oscar ever was.
                My friend, I respectfully disagree. Pacman MAY come close eventually. May! But people became famous because they fought Oscar. His appeal is in a league of it's own! Manny or Floyd cannot say that for themselves, yet!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  I am going to do one tomorrow.

                  But, I think is only fair to count HBO PPVs because of HBO budget.

                  I don't think is fair to count the low budget independent PPV that Pac had in the lower weight-class.

                  And, I know for sure Floyd number will be bigger on average while Pac it will be really really close...
                  Pac had only 2 independent, against Solis and Larios.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I am going to do one tomorrow.

                    But, I think is only fair to count HBO PPVs because of HBO budget.

                    I don't think is fair to count the low budget independent PPV that Pac had in the lower weight-class.

                    And, I know for sure Floyd number will be bigger on average while Pac it will be really really close...
                    lol @ moving the goal posts.


                    You're simply terrible in this one and its all due to your extreme hate for DLH.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
                      Floyd and Pac are bigger than Oscar ever was?

                      Oscar was a mainstream celebrity, not just boxing star, but mainstream celebrity the moment he won a gold medal. Let me say it again,

                      he became a mainstream celebrity once he won a gold medal in the Olympics. People who never, ever watched boxing, tuned in to see "The Golden Boy".

                      He was a star from the jump, his first pro fight, and didn't need to latch onto anyones coattails to make a name for himself.
                      And, that is all fine and dandy but he still not a bigger draw than what Floyd and Pac are right now. And, they didn't need to win any gold medal to accomplish that.

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