Bigger draw-DLH or Pacquiao

[loui_ludwig]

OK, how is Oscar a bigger draw than what Floyd and Pac are now?

Dude, Oscar was the cash cow. Floyd and Pac were making 400,00 PPV's before Oscar fought them.

[jrosales13]

oscar could sell PPV on his own. so can floyd but pac cant. so its FLoyd>DLH>Pac

Pac sold 700k against Clottey...

Who did Oscar fight that was in Clottey level of interest, being a draw, and intrigued and sold more than 700k?

Are we saying that Clottey is on the level of Mosley was, Hopkins was, and Whitaker was when it came to interest, drawing power, and respect in the game? Really?

[jrosales13]

Dude, Oscar was the cash cow. Floyd and Pac were making 400,00 PPV's before Oscar fought them.

Is that right now?

And, should we mention all the 200k and 300 and 400k PPV buys that Oscar had in his prime?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd pretty much has, And, he didn't have a prime undefeated monster in Tito to get 1.4mil, he did with a past prime Shane who didn't have the fanbase that Tito had.

Pac didn't have a prime undefeated monster in Tito either... But, in every thing else he pretty much has equaled if not sold more than a prime Oscar did.

So what are you talking about?

Oscar didn't have the internet or modern advertising.

Completely different world today in that regard.

With all of the women who followed him back then,

he'd be even larger with todays marketing tools.

[SCtrojansbaby]

What kind of question is this? DLH made Manny a draw

[loui_ludwig]

Is that right now?

And, should we mention all the 200k and 300 and 400k PPV buys that Oscar had in his prime?

He has also generated more money than any other boxer in the history of the sport, an estimated $696 million pay-per-view income(includes Mayweather and Pac fights).

Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History before fighting Pac and Mayweather:
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million
5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million
6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million
7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million
8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million
9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million
11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million
12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million
13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million
14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million
15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million
17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million

[jrosales13]

Oscar didn't have the internet or modern advertising.

Completely different world today in that regard.

With all of the women who followed him back then,

he'd be even larger with todays marketing tools.

Who is to say,,, Boxing back then was more mainstream than it is now... There was more intruiged... You honest don't think that helped him either? I can say that if boxing today had the mainstream appeal that it had in Oscar prime then both Floyd and Pac would have been even larger today.

The internet can help and hurt with free streams now... You don't think the free streams hurt there sells? If there wasn't any free streams who is to say they won't sell even more?

Anyways, we talking about right and right now both Floyd and Pac are bigger than Oscar ever was...Maybe Oscar would have been larger in this era but that is not the question now is it?

[Squizz]

haha agree!! how many times did they do 1mil+ ppv sales before dlh?

Thank you. And Floyd/Oscar did 2million+ ppv buys FFS! And I'm telling you right now, it wasn't because of Floyd! Oscar was the face of boxing from basically 1994/5 until he retired! No other boxer has/had the crossover appeal like Oscar. NOBODY! I remember telling a girlfriend of mine that I was going to a bar to watch Oscar/Hopkins in 2004. When I saw here again, she was like: "Who won the fight?" and I was like "Hopkins." And she was like, "Oscar lost? Aw, I was hoping he would win!" And this girl knows nothing about boxing, or sports in general for that matter! Oscar's appeal to the female gender is second to NONE in boxing! Women simply LOVE the guy. They might even HATE boxing (like said girl from above) but they LOVE him for some reason. No other boxer has EVER had that type of appeal. (At least that I know of.)

[loui_ludwig]

Oscar didn't have the internet or modern advertising.

Completely different world today in that regard.

With all of the women who followed him back then,

he'd be even larger with todays marketing tools.

Exactly. Even cable is more advance now.

[jrosales13]

He has also generated more money than any other boxer in the history of the sport, an estimated $696 million pay-per-view income(includes Mayweather and Pac fights).

Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History before fighting Pac and Mayweather:
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million
5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million
6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million
7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million
8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million
9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million
11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million
12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million
13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million
14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million
15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million
17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million

You talking about quantity over quality when you're talking about who sold more. He had 16 PPV fights, Floyd isn't sniffing anywhere close to those amount of PPV events. He barely has what? Like 7?


Why not average out?

Add up all the amount of money he generated in PPV events and all also add up all the PPV buys he had on HBO and then divide that by the number of events.

Then do the same for Floyd with HBO PPV

And, the same for Pac Pac with HBO PPV.

And, I can pretty much guarantee that Oscar doesn't finish first in that regard.