If it was Mayweather vs Margarito, would you call it a cherrypick?

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  • DARKSEID
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    #81
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
    At least Margarito COULD beat Pacquiao. He has no chance whatsoever against Floyd, so good for Floyd for not fighting him. I don't see how Margarito could land a decent punch on Mayweather.
    I'm tired of people using floyd's domination over easy opponents as proof that he would do the same thing against dangerous opponents.

    How about he fights a dangerous opponent in his own weight division first? Then I won't mind anyone saying that.

    Featherweight Floyd was the bomb, and I don't doubt his legacy there, but every since he arrived in the welterweight scene, he hasn't fought anyone dangerous at all.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Rbgnwo
      I'm tired of people using floyd's domination over easy opponents as proof that he would do the same thing against dangerous opponents.

      How about he fights a dangerous opponent in his own weight division first? Then I won't mind anyone saying that.
      Was Shane Mosley in his weight Division?

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        #83
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Was Shane Mosley in his weight Division?
        Shane was on fire against Margarito but he was inactive for 2 years leading up to floyd, and I know you'll disagree, but shane looked shot to me.

        You could argue that it was floyd's technical domination that kept shane from getting off, but I saw the same shot fighter against Mora. If Shane wasn't 38 and wasn't inactive for 2 years, and redeemed himself on his next fight, o.k I wouldn't take any credit away from Floyd and I would have no doubt that shane was as dangerous as we all thought he was. But he was 38, he was inactive for 2 years, and he looked horrible in his comeback fight.

        Is it so impossible to believe that a 38 year old fighter is past his prime? Is Shane not human?
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          #84
          Originally posted by Rbgnwo
          It's just a fact. You don't beat Mayweather by Boxing, and you don't beat Pacquiao by brawling. Where have you been this past decade?

          Anyone with eyes could see that Jose Luis Castillo connected more with the harder shots and won more rounds than Mayweather, who was mostly in survival mode the entire fight, and he was NEVER in control.. it was always Castillo in control of the fight- I don't need a judge to tell me what it is that I so clearly saw.

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          So Mayweather has to dominate every fight in order to be considered a winner? He is not entitled to close competitive victories.

          Keep in mind, the ref took a point from both guys and Floyd was winning the round I saw that fight and I had Floyd winning 114-112. Keep in mind that the ref took away points from both fighters, and the round that Floyd was winning anyway, Castillo got a point taken away which is 10-8 Floyd. Floyd did good in the earlier rounds and there were a couple of swing rounds where neither guy landed or dictated the round, My scorecard:


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            #85
            Originally posted by Rbgnwo
            Shane was on fire against Margarito but he was inactive for 2 years leading up to floyd, and I know you'll disagree, but shane looked shot to me.

            You could argue that it was floyd's technical domination that kept shane from getting off, but I saw the same shot fighter against Mora. If Shane wasn't 38 and wasn't inactive for 2 years, and redeemed himself on his next fight, o.k I wouldn't take any credit away from Floyd and I would have no doubt that shane was as dangerous as we all thought he was. But he was 38, he was inactive for 2 years, and he looked horrible in his comeback fight.

            Is it so impossible to believe that a 38 year old fighter is past his prime? Is Shane not human?
            Thats odd.

            Wasnt Margarito off for a year?

            Wasnt Margarito KO'd before his suspension by that same guy Floyd beat?

            Didnt Marg look bad in his comeback fight?

            Lets be consistent.

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              #86
              And just for the record, Margarito got outboxed, I REPEAT OUTBOXED BY JOSHUA FRIGGIN' CLOTTEY.

              A guy who against more mobile fighters just covers up and stands around. Clottey was countering him for crispe sake. That should tell you everything.

              This was during the time where Margarito MAY have used plasters so Clottey finally broke down in the mid to late rounds either due to poor condition (he was known to gas out against other fighters) or because of Margarito.

              But the point is a second-rate boxer looked like a poor man's Mayweather in there against Margarito. Floyd is a pure boxer and would lay the smackdown on him from any and every angle.

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                #87
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                Thats odd.

                Wasnt Margarito off for a year?

                Wasnt Margarito KO'd before his suspension by that same guy Floyd beat?

                Didnt Marg look bad in his comeback fight?

                Lets be consistent.
                Margarito is not past his prime.

                Margarito's strength in the ring has always been his heart- that's not something that goes away like shane's handspeed.

                1 year is not the same as 2 years.

                Garcia was a tune up fight, while Floyd- the hardest opponent shane has ever fought WAS his tune up fight.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Rbgnwo
                  Shane was on fire against Margarito but he was inactive for 2 years leading up to floyd, and I know you'll disagree, but shane looked shot to me.

                  You could argue that it was floyd's technical domination that kept shane from getting off, but I saw the same shot fighter against Mora. If Shane wasn't 38 and wasn't inactive for 2 years, and redeemed himself on his next fight, o.k I wouldn't take any credit away from Floyd and I would have no doubt that shane was as dangerous as we all thought he was. But he was 38, he was inactive for 2 years, and he looked horrible in his comeback fight.

                  Is it so impossible to believe that a 38 year old fighter is past his prime? Is Shane not human?
                  It doesnt matter, the fact is Shane was #1, Shane was the best option available, Period. Therefore nobody can say Mayweather ducked someone at 147 at that particular time, and no one can say he hasnt fought a welterweight, Shane was the best option available, Period.

                  The writers wanted Floyd to fight Shane, the fans wanted Floyd to fight Shane, YOU wanted Floyd to fight Shane. To 'prove he's not scared'.

                  He fought Mora after Floyd, like i said before the fight, Shane doesnt do well againsst people like Mora, why he fought him i don't know, but Shanes style is never going to be impressive against someone who is constantly moving, thats a fact. If he fights Berto next we will see who is shot. But that doesnt even matter, when he fought Floyd he was #1 and the best option out there, atleast give him props for that.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by rbgnwo
                    margarito is not past his prime.
                    you are not serious.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Rbgnwo
                      Shane was on fire against Margarito but he was inactive for 2 years leading up to floyd, and I know you'll disagree, but shane looked shot to me.

                      You could argue that it was floyd's technical domination that kept shane from getting off, but I saw the same shot fighter against Mora. If Shane wasn't 38 and wasn't inactive for 2 years, and redeemed himself on his next fight, o.k I wouldn't take any credit away from Floyd and I would have no doubt that shane was as dangerous as we all thought he was. But he was 38, he was inactive for 2 years, and he looked horrible in his comeback fight.

                      Is it so impossible to believe that a 38 year old fighter is past his prime? Is Shane not human?
                      So why is Arum mentioning Mosley as a leading candidate for Pac's next fight?

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