If it was Mayweather vs Margarito, would you call it a cherrypick?

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  • DARKSEID
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    #111
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    You saw his last 2 fights? But you just said Shane doesn't do well against defensive fighters, was he shot when he lost to Forrest twice in a row? Then arguablly lost to Oscar, then lost 2 fights to Winky in a row, all in a row? Was he shot then? By your logic he was shot, 'you saw his past 5 fights' Right?? But no, he wasn't shot, he just had bad style match ups, like YOU just stated in the other thread, Shane doesnt and never will look good against guys who box or constantly mpve, Period.

    Your comparing sports now, there complety different, not comparable at all.

    You would bet your life you would be hearing a different tune from me??? You dont even know me dude. And if you read any of my posts concerning Pacqiauo, which evidently you havn't, you would know that i give Pacqiauo tons of credit, the only big fights i discredit on his entire resume are Oscar and Morales 3, every other big fight i give him credit for, thats includes all his recent fights that people discredit, i have been following the sport and Pacqiao for years and years and years, Pacqiauo has an incredible resume, Period. Had he fought and beat Mosley, i would have said he beat the #1 WW, the Linear WW champion, and the p4p #3, and THE best option out there possible, due to the reason that, its a fact that Shane was THE best option.
    He looked bad against Vernon and Wright, but he didn't look shot, you have to take things into context, and I didn't say a different tune from you, but from everyone who isn't open minded to this issue- that a 38 year old fighter couldn't POSSIBLY be shot, even though there's no way to tell because he didn't fight anybody for 2 years.

    Shane didn't have his explosiveness in his last 2 fights

    He didn't have his handspeed

    He didn't even have as much power as I remember- he was pitter patting floyd and Mora in the later rounds when he used to still have steam behind his punches in the later rounds in his prime.
    Last edited by DARKSEID; 10-23-2010, 08:11 PM.

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      #112
      I would call it VERY DANGEROUS cherry picking

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        • daggum
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          #114
          why do people continue to say mosley was the best welterweight? he wasn't. pacquiao was ranked higher and anyone with eyeballs would agree he's the far superior fighter. mosley became inactive and was passed by pacquiao because he beat 2 top welterweights to mosley's 1 a year and a half earlier. the ring which is owned by golden boy even ranked pac in front of mosley.

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            #115
            Originally posted by daggum
            why do people continue to say mosley was the best welterweight? he wasn't. pacquiao was ranked higher and anyone with eyeballs would agree he's the far superior fighter. mosley became inactive and was passed by pacquiao because he beat 2 top welterweights to mosley's 1 a year and a half earlier. the ring which is owned by golden boy even ranked pac in front of mosley.
            he was the best WW available when Floyd and Shane got signed, Pacqiaup was already fighting Clottey, other than Pacqiao, Shane was the best option.

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              #116
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              he was the best WW available when Floyd and Shane got signed, Pacqiaup was already fighting Clottey, other than Pacqiao, Shane was the best option.
              And that doesn't prove that Floyd has ever been tested at welterweight.

              Maybe if he fought and beat Cotto, Clottey and Margarito, I could say Floyd doesn't cherry pick his opponents, and that he's the best welterweight of our time.

              But as of now, I can't say it, because it would be a lie.
              Last edited by DARKSEID; 10-23-2010, 08:07 PM.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Rbgnwo
                And that doesn't prove that Floyd has ever been tested at welterweight.

                Maybe if he fought Cotto, Clottey and Margarito, I could say Floyd doesn't cherry pick his opponents, and that he's the best welterweight of our time.
                You think fighting Cotto over Shane would be a better option? Even though Cotto just came off the two biggest beatdowns of his career? Ok.

                You think Clottey would be a better option than Shane? LOL Ok.

                You think Margarito would be a better option than Shane? Even though Shane just annhiliated him and knocked him out? Ok.

                You think fighting Shane isn't even a test? Ok.

                You are literally using no logic what so ever, but whatever.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  he was the best WW available when Floyd and Shane got signed, Pacqiaup was already fighting Clottey, other than Pacqiao, Shane was the best option.
                  yea but he sabotaged the pac fight to land the easier mosley fight. how much credit does he deserve for fighting marquez and mosley instead of pac who was the real threat. it might be ok if he was willing to fight pac after them but he's not as his fake vacationing shows.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    You think fighting Cotto over Shane would be a better option? Even though Cotto just came off the two biggest beatdowns of his career? Ok.

                    You think Clottey would be a better option than Shane? LOL Ok.

                    You think Margarito would be a better option than Shane? Even though Shane just annhiliated him and knocked him out? Ok.

                    You think fighting Shane isn't even a test? Ok.

                    You are literally using no logic what so ever, but whatever.
                    i think he's referring to when those guys were on top. from an overall resume stand point those guys would have been much better than a 38 year old mosley that floyd fought. remember when floyd fake retired to avoid those guys? it's very convenient he comes back to fight marquez and mosley who are much easier fights than those guys ever would have been.
                    Last edited by daggum; 10-23-2010, 08:18 PM.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      yea but he sabotaged the pac fight to land the easier mosley fight. how much credit does he deserve for fighting marquez and mosley instead of pac who was the real threat. it might be ok if he was willing to fight pac after them but he's not as his fake vacationing shows.
                      Regardless, he still fought and beat Mosley. A guy you said he was ducking, a guy who was the best option other than Pacqiauo available, Period. Atleast give him credit for that.

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