If it was Mayweather vs Margarito, would you call it a cherrypick?

[jrosales13]

Yeah well there are too many things you read about and then put in the back of your head and then not think about. I thought it was true at the time but I guess it wasn't.

You can't proofread and verify everything, sometimes it sticks to you as if it were fact. I bet that's how half of the posts in this place are formulated, but if I am called out, I will always defend myself. This time, I couldn't.

So thanks for schooling me.

Not schooling bro,

Is just learn something new here everyday.

I don't know it all, and I learn stuff from other posters on here. So it all good.

Just always make sure you can back what you claim.

Green K for admitting you were wrong.

[jrosales13]

who he fight after dlh

Hatton,

but he could of done it before DLH.

He could of even done it before Baldomir if he really wanted to.

[Ray*]

Oh you're right.. the key to beating mayweather is to outbox him. Get real.

Guys have failed because they didn't put enough pressure or gave up halfway because Mayweather countered them too much.

Mayweather lost in the Amatuers from pressure. Mayweather Lost to Castillo from pressure. Hatton gave him trouble with pressure, but the ref kept breaking them up when Hatton got in close and reset the action for mayweather- he didn't let Hatton fight his fight AT ALL. Oscar gave him some trouble with pressure, but he didn't jab or press the action enough.

Margarito is not any of those guys. Which is one of the reasons Mayweather won't fight him.

Applying pressure would normally work if Mayweather cant fight for 12 rounds, Mayweather has one of best stamina in the fight game, And he breaks you down when you apply pressure but cant be effective with it. And when that happens to you against Mayweather then you are in trouble.

[p4p-champ]

Mayweather could fight Wladimir Klitschko and people would find a way to call it a cherry pick.

[maguirre]

Pacquiao could fight Wladimir Klitschko and people would find a way to call it a cherry pick.

Agree. 110%

[Mr. Ryan]

Floyd would use spoiling tactics and get by on points.

One thing is for sure, Floyd would need to have his track shoes laced up nice and tight.

Here's the thing though, when has movement worked against Margarito?

Cotto and Martinez both tried to back up and pick Margarito off with counter punches and both were stopped. Yes, I know, the likelihood is that Margarito had cheated in the Cotto fight, but the principle remains.

Even Daniel Santos who has a TD win over Margarito had his best success when he stood and fought and fell out of the fight when he boxed and moved.

To beat Margarito, you have to outfight him like Williams and Mosley have. When you back up against a guy like Margarito, you just give him steam to charge.

[AllEyesOpen]

Applying pressure would normally work if Mayweather cant fight for 12 rounds, Mayweather has one of best stamina in the fight game, And he breaks you down when you apply pressure but cant be effective with it. And when that happens to you against Mayweather then you are in trouble.

Very true, not only does he have great stamina, but he's one of the best counterpunchers in the game. Pressure don't work, like i said to the TS if you watch the Chavez fight you see some of the best pressure ever aplied on Maywearther and Mayweather would still slip a lot of those shots, all Chavez got was non stop counters to the chin til his corner stopped the fight.

Honestly, I think Pacquiao speed, stamina, combined with footspeed and ability to come in and out is the best style to beat Mayweather. At the same time I think Mayweather has the tools to take advantage of the all the mistakes Pac makes that most of his recent opponents haven't been able to capitalize on. Hype or No, May/Pac is the best fight to be made in the sport of boxing, it pisses me off just thinking about it, i just hope it happens early next year.

[Ray*]

Here's the thing though, when has movement worked against Margarito?

Cotto and Martinez both tried to back up and pick Margarito off with counter punches and both were stopped. Yes, I know, the likelihood is that Margarito had cheated in the Cotto fight, but the principle remains.

Even Daniel Santos who has a TD win over Margarito had his best success when he stood and fought and fell out of the fight when he boxed and moved.

To beat Margarito, you have to outfight him like Williams and Mosley have. When you back up against a guy like Margarito, you just give him steam to charge.

Martinez was a novice! Cotto doesnt have enough stamina for a 12 round fight, But Cotto still outbox and looked like Sweet pea in the first 5 out of 6 rounds against a slow and plodding Margarito..

[AllEyesOpen]

Here's the thing though, when has movement worked against Margarito?

Cotto and Martinez both tried to back up and pick Margarito off with counter punches and both were stopped. Yes, I know, the likelihood is that Margarito had cheated in the Cotto fight, but the principle remains.

Even Daniel Santos who has a TD win over Margarito had his best success when he stood and fought and fell out of the fight when he boxed and moved.

To beat Margarito, you have to outfight him like Williams and Mosley have. When you back up against a guy like Margarito, you just give him steam to charge.

I actually thought Mosley fought great moving backwards against Margarito, standing his grounds at time and unloading, then grabbing Margarito before he could get set to unload, then repeat. I agree that Williams outfought him, but Mosley outboxed him in my opinion.

[IronDanHamza]

Martinez was a novice! Cotto doesnt have enough stamina for a 12 round fight, But Cotto still outbox and looked like Sweet pea in the first 5 out of 6 rounds against a slow and plodding Margarito..

And neither of those guys really clinch too good, Cotto doesn't clinch at all. I still think had Cotto cliched in that very fight he'd have won. Mayweather can effectivly clinch well.