If it was Mayweather vs Margarito, would you call it a cherrypick?

[Ray*]

Very true, not only does he have great stamina, but he's one of the best counterpunchers in the game. Pressure don't work, like i said to the TS if you watch the Chavez fight you see some of the best pressure ever aplied on Maywearther and Mayweather would still slip a lot of those shots, all Chavez got was non stop counters to the chin til his corner stopped the fight.

Honestly, I think Pacquiao speed, stamina, combined with footspeed and ability to come in and out is the best style to beat Mayweather. At the same time I think Mayweather has the tools to take advantage of the all the mistakes Pac makes that most of his recent opponents haven't been able to capitalize on. Hype or No, May/Pac is the best fight to be made in the sport of boxing, it pisses me off just thinking about it, i just hope it happens early next year.

My thing is, Pressure doesnt necessarily work against Mayweather because he is a smart guy in the ring, He need someone thats unpredictable to give him troubles and that's where Pacquiao comes in.

Castillo, Jesus chavez and Famoso are some of the fighters that use pure pressure against Mayweather and while they were sucessful in some part they just couldnt carry it through, If Mayweather was "Soft" he would and could have folded in some of those fights.

But fighters like Pac and Augustus would make it difficult if they apply pressure in the right way and keep Mayweather guessing, If you think throwing 1000 punches at Mayweather is the way to beat him then i feel sorry for you.

De la Hoya and Hatton tried that and they couldnt pull it off too.

[IronDanHamza]

My thing is, Pressure doesnt necessarily work against Mayweather because he is a smart guy in the ring, He need someone thats unpredictable to give him troubles and that's where Pacquiao comes in.

Castillo, Jesus chavez and Famoso are some of the fighters that use pure pressure against Mayweather and while they were sucessful in some part they just couldnt carry it through, If Mayweather was "Soft" he would and could have folded in some of those fights.

But fighters like Pac and Augustus would make it difficult if they apply pressure in the right way and keep Mayweather guessing, If you think throwing 1000 punches at Mayweather is the way to beat him then i feel sorry for you.

De la Hoya and Hatton tried that and they couldnt pull it off too.

I agree with this.

[Ray*]

And neither of those guys really clinch too good, Cotto doesn't clinch at all. I still think had Cotto cliched in that very fight he'd have won. Mayweather can effectivly clinch well.

I have no doubt that Margarito of 2006 would have been a hard fight for Mayweather especially because Floyd was still developing as a 147 fighter but i think he would still have won a 12 round UD.

Cotto gave Margarito the gap to extend his hand with his wild punches and when they got in close he allowed Margarito to tee off him without clinching or grabbing Rito like you pointed out, I just think Cotto didnt have the stamina to pull off a 12 round fight against constant pressure and he had to fold in the end.

[IronDanHamza]

I have no doubt that Margarito of 2006 would have been a hard fight for Mayweather especially because Floyd was still developing as a 147 fighter but i think he would still have won a 12 round UD.

Cotto gave Margarito the gap to extend his hand with his wild punches and when they got in close he allowed Margarito to tee off him without clinching or grabbing Rito like you pointed out, I just think Cotto didnt have the stamina to pull off a 12 round fight against constant pressure and he had to fold in the end.

I agree it would have been a tough fight and i agree it would have ended up a UD for Mayweather.

Yeah again i agree, i believe the main things that caused his down fall was the fact he was going to get backed and frankly can't fight backing up, the fact he doesnt clinch, and the fact he fades down the stretch. After that fight my mind was made up that Cotto can't beat pressure fighters for these reasons.

[johncods]

I completely agree that tony would give floyd hell that's why floyd didnt want anything to do with tony. Margarito is like a more stronger/bigger/durable but less technical version of Castillo and u saw how castillo gave floyd hell. Margarito would probably just laugh at floyd's punches and keep coming. And I think there's a big possibility of floyd hurting his brittle hands punching tony's hard ass head.

Good point about fighters getting intimidated by floyd's counter's. But margarito would walk thru them and keep punching.

[Khalid X]

Wrong, wrong, wrong, bro. Come on now. I am not even a Floyd fan. But, this is other BS right here bro.

Look this was around 2005. Winky had just beaten Tito. Floyd was still at 140. There were talks of a fight at 154 between them. Winky was not 'washed up" at this time. He was very much prime. And, at the time could have still made 154, he was a small MW. With only MW fight was against Tito at that time. While Floyd was at 140. Floyd was going to skip the 147 division and go to 154 and fight Winky. Winky was going to down to 154 again.

Kind of like Pac-Oscar.....

Winky, a prime Winky, was the one who outpriced himself out. He demanded a 50/50 split against Floyd. Winky didn't accept shit. He demanded, outpriced himself out. Floyd took other option and just went to WW. Winky went on to fight Sam Soliman and then JT.

Winky has a history of this. He also turned down a 4mil(I think a career high) guarantee against Marg because he wanted the 8mil that Floyd got offered. Like if his marketability was on Floyd level.

He also turned down a 50/50 split for a rematch against Taylor. Because, he said he deserved a bigger split.

He also turned a career high payday against Oscar of 6mil. I mean who the fuck turns down Oscar? Seriously?

Winky always over valued himself for some reason.

To say he accepted Floyd 80/20 split is just not true. And, I never even heard of that split being offered.

So now I am just curious, where did you get that info from?

You know that is why I never fall into that "Nobody want's to fight me and everyone is ducking me" b.s. that a lot of these guys try to get the public to believe.

If someone wanted to, they could make a thread, similar to your reply, showing how guys like Donaire, Williams, Marquez and others have pulled similar stuff....only to act like they are being ducked by the bigger names.

[IronDanHamza]

I completely afree that tony would give floyd hell that's why floyd didnt want anything to do with tony. Margarito is like a more stronger/bigger/durable but less technical version of Castillo and u saw how castillo gave floyd hell. Margarito would probably just laugh at floyds punches and keep coming. And I think there's a big possibility of floyd would hurting his brittle hands punching tony's hard ass head.

Even though i dont really agree with all of your post that last part is very true and very good possibility.

[johncods]

Even though i dont really agree with all of your post that last part is very true and very good possibility.

Good catch bro. If u know boxing u know floyd has problems with his hands and if he punches tony hard for 12 rounds like he has to to keep margarito off of him I bet he would **** his hands up.

[al-Xander]

This is what Pac bashers call a cherrypick
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People really need to start digging deep into
the deepest recesses of their heart, soul and
mind and see things exactly the way they are.

[DiegoFuego]

At least Margarito COULD beat Pacquiao. He has no chance whatsoever against Floyd, so good for Floyd for not fighting him. I don't see how Margarito could land a decent punch on Mayweather.