Why cant Titles be contestsed at catchweights?

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #41
    Originally posted by pistol whip
    Huh? Why would you care? I don't think its wrong because its not my buissness nor do I care. The more I talk to you the more I realize you are a bit of a self important boxing fan.
    And you're an MMA fan. Go figure.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Because its closer to the JWW limit than the WW limit. Its farcical. We should just have no weight classes and let fighters pick n choose what weights and titles they fight for....

      But any fight between 141-147 again is a welterweight bout and its been that way for a hundred years. Again you are the one making up this rule that all welterweigh bouts have to have the full weight limit in effect! You! Not any boxing commission or orginization! The faster you relize that you are the one making up the rules and the fighters are the ones operating within them the faster you might stop obsessing over what ammounts to a meaningless detail.

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        #43
        Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop
        The boxing organizations do not have to agree to sanction the fight as a championship fight. And they should not. Two fighters agreeing to fight at a catch-weight is fine. I do not blame the fighters, just the organizations,
        And again give me a reason why not? Because you say so is not a valid ***ing reason!!!

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        • pistol whip
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          #44
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          And you're an MMA fan. Go figure.
          Which means what? If you are associating ****sexuality with MMA then maybe its you who has a problem with their sexual identity. Its pretty obvious that you are a closet ****sexual if you associating MMA with ****sexual sex.

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          • Ray*
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            #45
            We have a weight class for a reason, I think its ****** but each to his own, Even if i dont agree with it there is nothing anyone can do about it, Its just sad when we actually have a weight class but people still want to back fighters who fights or want a catchweight fight for titles, The Williams request is just ******ed and it shows how sad boxing is becoming.

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              #46
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Which means what? If you are associating ****sexuality with MMA then maybe its you who has a problem with their sexual identity. Its pretty obvious that you are a closet ****sexual if you associating MMA with ****sexual sex.
              Wtf?

              Where did he even mention this?

              Sounds a bit............. paranoid if you ask me?

              Secret to tell?

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                #47
                Originally posted by pistol whip
                Which means what? If you are associating ****sexuality with MMA then maybe its you who has a problem with their sexual identity. Its pretty obvious that you are a closet ****sexual if you associating MMA with ****sexual sex.
                I didnt say anything about MMA and ****sexuality.

                Defensive much?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  But any fight between 141-147 again is a welterweight bout and its been that way for a hundred years. Again you are the one making up this rule that all welterweigh bouts have to have the full weight limit in effect! You! Not any boxing commission or orginization! The faster you relize that you are the one making up the rules and the fighters are the ones operating within them the faster you might stop obsessing over what ammounts to a meaningless detail.
                  Again....if its meaningless, why not just fight at the ****in limit?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    We have a weight class for a reason, I think its ****** but each to his own, Even if i dont agree with it there is nothing anyone can do about it, Its just sad when we actually have a weight class but people still want to back fighters who fights or want a catchweight fight for titles, The Williams request is just ******ed and it shows how sad boxing is becoming.

                    Again could you explain why you disagree with it? Is there an actual valid reason behind it or is this just more about everything just being in it proper place kind of thing. Because that seems to be the explination that everyone seems to be giving me, that everything basically has to be in its place to preserve the sanctity of the sport which is total BS in my eyes.


                    Seems to me everyone is complaining because everyone seems to just be a traditionalist.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      I ve seen people get upset over catchweights lately and I really have not read one good explination as to why they are so bad? Weather its williams or pac asking for one I don't see how it effects anything in the outcome of the fight especially if both fighters agree to it and can make the weight. Remember weight classes are not just one set weight. Junior middle for example is any fight that happens between 148-154 pounds. Middleweight for example is 155-160 pounds. And may I also remind you that there is no rule anywhere by any boxing orginization that says that Championship bouts have to be held at the full weight limit. Why?
                      Catch weight is to decide who is the best around the same weight class and is a compromise from both sides. Pac/Margo fight doesn't decide who is the best 154lb fighter and on top of that neither has done anything significant in the weight. Till this point all catchweight fights have only benefited Pac. As for Williams, shame on him for being self proclaimed that he is the most avoided man from 147-160 and now asks for a catchweight with somebody that he has already fought, obviously it is asked for his advantage.

                      If you want to come anywhere under the limit that is fine but don't make the other guy be obligated to come under the limit

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