Why cant Titles be contestsed at catchweights?

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  • JDezi4
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    #61
    Originally posted by pistol whip
    Same day weigh ins stopped over 20 years ago so what exactly are you talking about.
    I probably should have finished it, but I stopped paying attention half way through becuz I was watching something on Youtube.

    My point is it's a disadvantage to come in with ANY muscle loss. Gaining back the water the next day will not replace the muscle loss. And in case u didn't know, muscle isn't just lost in certain areas, it's lost all over (for example... the jaw and neck area, which lowers punch resistance)...
    The point basically is it put one person at a disadvantage having to go that unecessary extra mile and work unnecessarily harder to have to fight somebody who hardly has to burn any weight at all. And in some cases didn't have to burn any weight, but instead had to gain it.
    It's an insult to the sport becuz all catchweights r meant to do is weaken ur opponent. And getting to win a championship for fighting a weakened opponent is simply bull****

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    • fabie
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      #62
      key phraseology: MUTUAL AGREEMENT.

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      • VERSION1 (V1)
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        #63
        Originally posted by pistol whip
        It doesn't say that which is why i don't have a problem with fighters rehydrating plus it makes the sport safer, but to say that Pac had an advantage because his opponent only outweighed him by 12 pounds instead of 15 is ridiculous.
        so if tony going to put on the extra weight come fight night why put a limt of 152 why not let him come in at 154 limt then.

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        • Ray*
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          #64
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          Again could you explain why you disagree with it? Is there an actual valid reason behind it or is this just more about everything just being in it proper place kind of thing. Because that seems to be the explination that everyone seems to be giving me, that everything basically has to be in its place to preserve the sanctity of the sport which is total BS in my eyes.


          Seems to me everyone is complaining because everyone seems to just be a traditionalist.
          What more explanation do you need? I said we already have weight divisions and we dont need fighters making up any catchweights.

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          • Pin Galarga
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            #65
            Simple, There are weight classes for every possible size, so if you are a player on this game, play the game with the rules it has and stop trying to bend the rules to TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR OPPONENT.

            The rules were therer before the Primadonas and following them makes a fighter a professional.
            Catchweight are for cheaters looking for angles and how to take away from their opponents.

            Fight fair, fight with the rules and don't try to make your own sport inside of Boxing.

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            • MayMosPeaHop
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              #66
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              And again give me a reason why not? Because you say so is not a valid ***ing reason!!!
              What is a valid reason? Not giving a individual coming up in weight a advantage and there are weight class limits for a reason. There are also penalties in place for exceeding the weight limit for every weight class per state commission. If the champion has to cut weight, then the challenger has a advantage. Irregardless if both individuals agree. That is why I said the boxing organizations should not sanction any catch-weight fight as a title fight. 145lbs. is not 147lbs. 151lbs is not 154lbs. If the fighters want to agree on those weights to fight each other, fine. Just not for a title.

              What was the point of fighting Cotto at 145lbs and then fighting Clottey at 147lbs? Obviously, someone wanted a advantage.
              Again, I do not blame the fighters, I blame the boxing organizations.

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              • Nuurzhaelan
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                #67
                Originally posted by Ray*
                What more explanation do you need? I said we already have weight divisions and we dont need fighters making up any catchweights.
                I feel that if a fighter cannot accept a challenger coming in at the full limit of the new division then he has no business being there. Pistol's arguments have merit, imo, but this trumps his.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
                  I feel that if a fighter cannot accept a challenger coming in at the full limit of the new division then he has no business being there. Pistol's arguments have merit, imo, but this trumps his.
                  Pretty much. If you feel ur too small to compete at a weight, then dont fight in it.

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                  • V.WEBB
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Pretty much. If you feel ur too small to compete at a weight, then dont fight in it.
                    That is as simple as it gets.

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                    • Ray*
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
                      I feel that if a fighter cannot accept a challenger coming in at the full limit of the new division then he has no business being there. Pistol's arguments have merit, imo, but this trumps his.
                      I just dont like catchweights, Whether fighters agree to it is really irrelevant IMO, Money makes the world go around and if enough money is thrown around fighters would eventually say yes. That when the organisation should come in and stick to their rules but we all know the organisation are even worse when it comes to money.

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