Why cant Titles be contestsed at catchweights?

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #11
    Originally posted by pistol whip
    Exactly people forget that all these fighters have a full day to rehydrate and still weight the same on fight night as they normally do.


    Seriously people exaggerating the effects of 2-3 pounds is ***ing childish especially when a normal person loses and regains that weight several times during a normal day of activities.
    So if 2-3 pounds doesnt matter, why ask for a catchweight? It works both ways using that logic.

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    • NesNY
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      #12
      as for the Cotto fight...

      Cotto comfortably weighed in at 146lbs for Clottey, a fight that was negotiated at the WW limit. Only 5 months later...Pac asked for him to weigh 145lbs.... that's 1 pound less. 16 ounces. Cotto repeated numerous times that he had no trouble making weight and actually felt just as fast and strong.
      Last edited by NesNY; 09-16-2010, 01:07 PM.

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      • pistol whip
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Usually its one fighter demanding it and the other conceding so they can get the fight/get paid. It seems wrong that a challenger should demand the champion of a weight to not be allowed to weigh what he wants.

        No not if the fight is still being held in that weight class and the challanger is gonna end up weighing 15 pounds less than the Champion come fight night. See the catch weight in pac mans case was to limit the weight "disadvantage" he was gonna have come fight night. How dare pac limit how much his opponent will outweigh him by come fight night how dare he!!!

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          #14
          Originally posted by NesNY
          as for the Cotto fight...

          Cotto comfortably weighed in at 146lbs for Clottey, a fight that was negotiated at the WW limit. Only 5 months later...Pac asked for him to weigh 145lbs.... that's 1 pound. 16 ounces. Cotto had no trouble whatsoever making weight and repeated numerous times that he had no trouble making weight and actually felt just as fast and strong.
          My issue is not the ability to make the weight. Its putting a welterweight title on the line when neither man is allowed to weigh 147. Its like a whole new weight division....when we already have too many

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            #15
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            No not if the fight is still being held in that weight class and the challanger is gonna end up weighing 15 pounds less than the Champion come fight night. See the catch weight in pac mans case was to limit the weight "disadvantage" he was gonna have come fight night. How dare pac limit how much his opponent will outweigh him by come fight night how dare he!!!
            Well dont fight at welterweight if you think you're too small for the weight. Its pretty simple.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              So if 2-3 pounds doesnt matter, why ask for a catchweight? It works both ways using that logic.
              Again limiting how much an opponent can rehydrate to is an advantage? How so when in pacs case he still was fighting someone who was essentially 2 weight classes heavier than him on fight night?


              Yeah big advantage for pac! And you still have failed to give me a valid reason that doesn't have anything to do with just tearing down one particular boxer you don't like. Like I said it's all just one big excuse!

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              • pistol whip
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Well dont fight at welterweight if you think you're too small for the weight. Its pretty simple.

                Why because self imprtant fans are worried about some make belive sanctity of a sport? Yeah Im sure pac is losing sleep over such meaning less thories.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  I ve seen people get upset over catchweights lately and I really have not read one good explination as to why they are so bad? Weather its williams or pac asking for one I don't see how it effects anything in the outcome of the fight especially if both fighters agree to it and can make the weight. Remember weight classes are not just one set weight. Junior middle for example is any fight that happens between 148-154 pounds. Middleweight for example is 155-160 pounds. And may I also remind you that there is no rule anywhere by any boxing orginization that says that Championship bouts have to be held at the full weight limit. Why?
                  I do not understand why any boxing organization would sanction a catch-weight title fight. If the challenger wants to fight for the 160lb. title and weigh 153lbs, so be it. But a champion should not have to defend his title at a contracted weight below their division max limit. Weight makes a difference, especially if you have to lose it.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    Why because self imprtant fans are worried about some make belive sanctity of a sport? Yeah Im sure pac is losing sleep over such meaning less thories.
                    Because there are weight classes for a reason?

                    Oh and are you trying to say i dislike Pacquiao?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      My issue is not the ability to make the weight. Its putting a welterweight title on the line when neither man is allowed to weigh 147. Its like a whole new weight division....when we already have too many
                      No it's not a new weight division! welterweight is anywehere between 141-147. Anyfight that happens within those weights is considered a welterweight bout. Again Im still waiting for one reason why championship bouts have to be contested at the full weight limit?

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