Why cant Titles be contestsed at catchweights?

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  • pistol whip
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    Why cant Titles be contestsed at catchweights?

    I ve seen people get upset over catchweights lately and I really have not read one good explination as to why they are so bad? Weather its williams or pac asking for one I don't see how it effects anything in the outcome of the fight especially if both fighters agree to it and can make the weight. Remember weight classes are not just one set weight. Junior middle for example is any fight that happens between 148-154 pounds. Middleweight for example is 155-160 pounds. And may I also remind you that there is no rule anywhere by any boxing orginization that says that Championship bouts have to be held at the full weight limit. Why?
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    Because you should be allowed to come in at any weight up to the limit. You're putting a limit on the limit. Its ****in ******.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Because you should be allowed to come in at any weight up to the limit. You're putting a limit on the limit. Its ****in ******.
      Yeah I think if a fighter wants to come in light its their thing but dont force a limit on the other fighter as a negotiation tool.

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        #4
        Originally posted by pistol whip
        I ve seen people get upset over catchweights lately and I really have not read one good explination as to why they are so bad? Weather its williams or pac asking for one I don't see how it effects anything in the outcome of the fight especially if both fighters agree to it and can make the weight. Remember weight classes are not just one set weight. Junior middle for example is any fight that happens between 148-154 pounds. Middleweight for example is 155-160 pounds. And may I also remind you that there is no rule anywhere by any boxing orginization that says that Championship bouts have to be held at the full weight limit. Why?
        It's called fair play. Why should one guy expect move up to a weight division and expect one or any of his opponents to fight at a reduced weight to suit him, especially for a championship? That's just asinine. It is easier and more fair to abolish the allowance for catchweight bull****. If two guys want to meet that are two weight divisions apart, they should then meet at the full limit of the middle division.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Because you should be allowed to come in at any weight up to the limit. You're putting a limit on the limit. Its ****in ******.
          But both fighters have to agree to the weight limit so again why is it bad? It's not like a commision is forcing that weight upon them.

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          • NesNY
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            Sugar Ray Leonard fought at a catchweight vs. Donny Lalonde...WBC Super Middleweight.WBC light heavyweight titles on the line. The WBC SMW title was vacant at the time.

            Oscar DeLahoya fought Bernard Hopkins at a catchweight.... WBA Super World middleweight title, WBC middleweight title, IBF middleweight title, WBO middleweight title....ALL on the line.

            Mayweather fought a lightweight at catchweight....no title.

            They just wanna discredit Pacquiao as much as possible. He's giving a HUGE man an advantage. Margo hasn't had problems making 147 as a pro, an he'll enter the ring as a Middleweight...or damn near super middleweight after rehydrating.
            Last edited by NesNY; 09-16-2010, 12:58 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
              It's called fair play. Why should one guy expect move up to a weight division and expect one or any of his opponents to fight at a reduced weight to suit him, especially for a championship? That's just asinine. It is easier and more fair to abolish the allowance for catchweight bull****. If two guys want to meet that are two weight divisions apart, they should then meet at the full limit of the middle division.
              The thing is they don't "have" to! "Both" fighter have to agree to it. If both fighters agree where is the advantage? One of the fighters could always say No!! You act like they are being mandated to fight at a catch weight by one of the Alphabet orginizations which is 100% not happening. Every fighter in a catchweight bout has done it out of their own free will and not one has complained or made excuses about it. hell none of the recent fighters have said that even affected them. So again where is this great advantage that 2-3 pounds supposiably produces?

              I think this is just more about fans being able to make excuses for their favorite fighters or to simply blast fighters that they don't like. Really thats what it boils down to.

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                i dont see nothing wrong with it if both fighters agree on it

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  But both fighters have to agree to the weight limit so again why is it bad? It's not like a commision is forcing that weight upon them.
                  Usually its one fighter demanding it and the other conceding so they can get the fight/get paid. It seems wrong that a challenger should demand the champion of a weight to not be allowed to weigh what he wants.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NesNY
                    ....no title.

                    They just wanna discredit Pacquiao as much as possible. He's giving a HUGE man an advantage. Margo hasn't had problems making 147 as a pro, an he'll enter the ring as a Middleweight...or damn near super middleweight after rehydrating.

                    Exactly people forget that all these fighters have a full day to rehydrate and still weight the same on fight night as they normally do.


                    Seriously people exaggerating the effects of 2-3 pounds is ***ing childish especially when a normal person loses and regains that weight several times during a normal day of activities.

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