Why cant Titles be contestsed at catchweights?

[brick wall]

i can't see any good justification for catchweight fights really, it was a bad precedent in boxing. fights and fighters are categorized by weight and catchweight defeats the purpose of that simple rule. it's just sad to see some ****** posters who were used to be critics of catchweight fights are now justifying it because it involves their favorite fighter.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

And again for a catchweight both fighters have to agree. And 145 is in the welterweight division. Nowhere does it say that championships have to be contested at the full weight limit. So if they are making up weight classes then you yourself are being a hypocrit because you are making up non existent rules.

The fighters could both agree to passionately kiss before the first bell, theres no rule against it but it would still be wrong in my eyes. What a ****** argument.

[Nuurzhaelan]

And again for a catchweight both fighters have to agree. And 145 is in the welterweight division. Nowhere does it say that championships have to be contested at the full weight limit. So if they are making up weight classes then you yourself are being a hypocrit because you are making up non existent rules.

You are pretty reasonable. What if the guy who wanted the catchweight was denied by the guy who did not and the first guy called the second a duck or something similarly pejorative? Who would you side with at that point?

[pistol whip]

Exactly. Not 141-145. Theres already a limit - 147. Why make a new one? Would you condone fighting for the welterweight title at 141?

Fighters through history have gone up in weight and havehad to fight bigger guys that weigh on the limit. So why should Pac, Williams or anyone be different.

If both fighters agree to 141 what do I care? Again no rule anwhere states that a welterweight title bought cant be held at that weight limit especially if both ***ing fighters agree to it.


Just because nobody has asked for catchweight before suddenly nobody can ask for one? Which isn't exactly the truth because catchweights are pretty routine in boxing but the only reason people make a big deal out of it now is because these are high profile fighters like that makes a diffrence.

[MayMosPeaHop]

And again for a catchweight both fighters have to agree. And 145 is in the welterweight division. Nowhere does it say that championships have to be contested at the full weight limit. So if they are making up weight classes then you yourself are being a hypocrit because you are making up non existent rules.

The boxing organizations do not have to agree to sanction the fight as a championship fight. And they should not. Two fighters agreeing to fight at a catch-weight is fine. I do not blame the fighters, just the organizations,

[Nuurzhaelan]

The fighters could both agree to passionately kiss before the first bell, theres no rule against it but it would still be wrong in my eyes. What a ****** argument.

It's a sound argument, though probably a little less easy to deal with than it might seem. People were calling Cotto a duck because he did not want to go down to 145, arguing that he was only at 146 in his previous bout. I think the pressure to capitulate is overwhelming at times. Hell, even the mother****ers who sanctioned the belt wanted to strip Cotto of it if he did not agree to fight Pacquiao.

[pistol whip]

You are pretty reasonable. What if the guy who wanted the catchweight was denied by the guy who did not and the first guy called the second a duck or something similarly pejorative? Who would you side with at that point?

I don't call fighters duckers, I think anyone who gets in the ring period as a profession has a hundred times more courage than I could ever have. Even Floyd who I hate with a passion will never be a ducker ever in my eyes. A loud mouth biitch yeas but not a ducker.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

If both fighters agree to 141 what do I care? Again no rule anwhere states that a welterweight title bought cant be held at that weight limit especially if both ***ing fighters agree to it.


Just because nobody has asked for catchweight before suddenly nobody can ask for one? Which isn't exactly the truth because catchweights are pretty routine in boxing but the only reason people make a big deal out of it now is because these are high profile fighters like that makes a diffrence.

Because its closer to the JWW limit than the WW limit. Its farcical. We should just have no weight classes and let fighters pick n choose what weights and titles they fight for....

[pistol whip]

The fighters could both agree to passionately kiss before the first bell, theres no rule against it but it would still be wrong in my eyes. What a ****** argument.

Huh? Why would you care? I don't think its wrong because its not my buissness nor do I care. The more I talk to you the more I realize you are a bit of a self important boxing fan.

[V.WEBB]

Because its closer to the JWW limit than the WW limit. Its farcical. We should just have no weight classes and let fighters pick n choose what weights and titles they fight for....

Right. I agree with this. There are weight classes for a reason.