24 hr. RE-HYDRATION RULE makes CRITICISM of CATCHWEIGHT fights ILLEGITIMATE

[Canelo Phresh]

its a absurd rumor that if im correct has been denied by team pac.

as long as the size discrepancy is not such a ridiculous gap, size & weight between two elite fighters dont matter where one fighter is just that much better than the other.

pacquiao has been weighing in at the 140-147 range since his 130 lb days. just use simple common sense & figure out that he's now fighting at welterweight which is his normal walking around weight. even the supposed bigger fighters he was facing was not really that much bigger than him that pac's skill set was just gonna get overwhelmed with their size.

david diaz is only 5'7 at the most. he fought at 135. miguel cotto is 5'8 at the most. he fought at 147. ricky hatton is the same height as pac. he fought at 140.

look at all those weights. Pac's walking around weight is higher than those guys fighting weight. there was really no size advanatage when you think about it.

the only time actual size advantage came into play was vs clottey who was 160 by fight night. the only problem is that pac's skillset & greatness came into play & trumped clottey's size & weight.

this is not that hard to understand if you take out the hate when analyzing. i even know deep down inside that marquez vs floyd outcome had nothing to do with weight but skills & style.

sorry man if arum is involved its not absurd. hes banned for life from promoting in arizona for bribing officials.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

sorry man if arum is involved its not absurd. hes banned for life from promoting in arizona for bribing officials.

dude take out all the sensationalism, rumors, absurdities, & nsb hate talk. just be a boxing fan & look at boxing history.

what pac is doing is nothing new.


henry armstrong was 126,135, & 147 champ at the same time.

how long ago was that? he challenged for the 160lb title vs ceferino garcia but was robbed. he's smaller than pac.

1 lb, 2;bs, 4lbs, 5lbs, it doesnt matter when it comes to elite fighters. mike tyson was getting outweighed by 30-40lbs yet he was crushing folks.

this is nothing new. look to your boxing history & you will find the truth. what pac is doing is nothing new or special that takes mythical a side meth that roger is accusing pac of taking.

just step back & use your head for a second. there's plenty of examples throughout boxing history of weight jumping. PLENTY.

you just dont know about it because there was no NSB threads back then. Now that there is NSB boxing is not in the forefront.

This whole weight thing is being over analyzed. whose the better fighter is the simple question with a simple answer.

[Tamis!]

This thread deserves bumping.

One thing I always say to people who ***** about catchweights (but not the people who hate it when a title's on the line, like my own POV) is come fight night fighters can blow up as easy as they can please, putting them on an advantage they only can exploit.

On that point alone, then why offer the catchweight in the first place, but that folks, is another story to ponder.

One good example of this is the Pac-Clottey fight, where Clottey balooned to 160lbs, perhaps it helped him more to cover up in a shell and so his arms won't let up against Pac's punches

[shade darkar]

no it doesnt.

[Clegg]

It weakens a fighter to lose more weight than they would normally for a given weight class no matter the 24-hour rule and it gives an advantage to the man who doesn't have to drain extra. That man doesn't have to hope he'll feel 100% after rehydration, hope his body will hold down fluids. Losing an extra pound or two means less water the days before the fight, less food.

From a guy who won't let his blood be drawn too close to a fight because it makes him queasy, it's the ultimate in hypocrisy.

I hate the day before weigh-in, but I don't reecall any catchweights when bringing Solis or Larios up the scale to even the playing field. Margarito-Pac being for a 'title' is enough of a joke as it is. At 150, it's the pits, as disgusting as making LaLonde squeeze to 168 for Leonard.

Excellent post...

[Great Afrikan]

when a fighter loses weight, he cuts down fat and muscle mass that impacts his strength. Not to mention eating only ice cubes.

Rehydrating in 24hrs is merely taking in water, you cannot get back muscle mass you lost in training camp in 24hrs.

If Pac doesnt struggle to 147 he can still eat and still make weight, DLH couldn't....so who has the advantage?

[JDezi4]

Didn't I already explain to u all the 24 hr rehydration rule does is replace the WATER in ur body, not the muscle u burn. Ur body gets used to only losing a certain amount of weight, and as a result fills out (grows muscle...) over the years. Than all of a sudden someone comes and tells u to burn off extra weight, ur body burns the water and the fat like it's used to, than what's left to burn when u still need to drop a few pounds? The muscle.

Why do u think Heavyweights don't just drop down and fight all the other weight class, considering they'd be carrying the power of a Heavyweight and using it against lightweights? Why not when all they have to do is rehydrate the next day right?

[Tamis!]

when a fighter loses weight, he cuts down fat and muscle mass that impacts his strength. Not to mention eating only ice cubes.

Rehydrating in 24hrs is merely taking in water, you cannot get back muscle mass you lost in training camp in 24hrs.

If Pac doesnt struggle to me 147 he can still eat and still make weight, DLH couldn't....so who has the advantage?

Good points! Not sure about the ice cubes though.

Regarding Pac-DLH, you have to bear in mind that it was Dela Hoya who challenged Pac to fight at 147 and come up 2 weight classes so advantageous or not DLH's just an idiot.

[JDezi4]

I didn't actually read the whole post before, I just read the first couple sentences... Now I see u got the idea for this thread from our conversation... I'm actually flattered. However I am disappointed u refused to listen.

[Pin Galarga]

anybody who criticizes catchweight fights as a way to discredit a fighter are ignorant, pretentious, & ****** hacks pretending to be physicians & medical researchers with vast amounts of medical data to support the ill effects of catchweights.

In fact, almost all evidence point to catchweights or "weight drained" excuse as being flaccid placebos.

winner of martinez vs paul williams gets full credit. catchweight has absolutley ZERO effect on the outcome of the fight just like in pac vs cotto, sweet pea vs chavez, oscar vs hopkins, & almost all the other catchweight fights the cry baby b*tches want to talk about.

24 rehydration completely removes any advantages or disadvantages of catchweights.

the reason why fighters ask for them is the false sense of security or edge they THINK THEY GET from it.

catcweights = placebos.

I strongly disagree. It's just so much you can rehydrate and it basically depends on HOW LOW YOU ARE COMING FROM.

If you over train to make those extra lbs, you DON'T GET THAT BACK.
YOU ARE OVER TRAINED. PERIOD.

Like I said. I strongly disagree with you 24 hr theory.