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24 hr. RE-HYDRATION RULE makes CRITICISM of CATCHWEIGHT fights ILLEGITIMATE
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Originally posted by mesher View PostHey dude, do you know WHY those guys who struggle to make that weight try to make that weight in the first place???? Because they know the 24hr rule will allow them to come in re-hydrated and MUCH bigger thaN the weight class their supposed to be fighting in. THEY DO IT FOR THE ADVANTAGE, don't pretend that these guys are somehow being punished for fighting in a weight class they are much too big for or for fighting a fighter that is much much smaller than them. Seriously getting sick of all this weight drained BS talk, it's the fighters choice, they can sign to fight in what ever weight class and what ever catch weight fight they want, IT'S THEIR CHOICE. Pac is fighting in the 148lb - 154lb weight class, not the 154lb - 154lb weight class.
im not denying it affects fighters if they lose too much weight, but people act as if it is the only factor that determines the outcome of the fight.
people cut weight so they can have an advantage. not so that they can have a disadvantage.
catch weights are there for a reason. always been there, atg's have won titles fighting catchweight fights. it isn't the worst thing in boxing.
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postim guessing than anybody who's posting this bull**** never boxed. do u kno how hard it is for some guys to make their weights?? now u make a guy lose one extra lb, u kno how had he has to strain his body to do it??? now make that same guy lose 3 extra lbs...that drains a fighter. rehydrating does not make u fit the day of the fight. u take so much out of yourself trying to lose the weight that it would take a great deal more than 24 hrs to put all the vital nutrients and water back into your body on time. not to mention the extra time you have to put into cutting the weight which can take away from training both mentally and physically.
dude, u cant say something like that without having boxed yourself or without being around boxers who have struggled to make weight. its very very inaccurate.
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wrong. catchweights are there for 1 reason. to give an advantage to 1 of the fighters. catchweights deny a fighter the right he has to weigh in at the divisional limit. pacquaio only tarnishes his accomplishments by denying his opponents to be at full weight and strength. If you want to win a superwelterweight title, then the limits should be 154lbs. pac dont have to weigh in at 154, but he should not be telling opponents you cant weigh in at 154 just because im a midget. i am completely against catchweights if you havent noticed! ha.
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Originally posted by shade darkar View Postwrong. catchweights are there for 1 reason. to give an advantage to 1 of the fighters. catchweights deny a fighter the right he has to weigh in at the divisional limit. pacquaio only tarnishes his accomplishments by denying his opponents to be at full weight and strength. If you want to win a superwelterweight title, then the limits should be 154lbs. pac dont have to weigh in at 154, but he should not be telling opponents you cant weigh in at 154 just because im a midget. i am completely against catchweights if you havent noticed! ha.
catchweights were originally designed to even the playing field not to give one person an advantage.
usually it's when a smaller fighter fights a bigger one.
say you have a 135 champ and a 140 champ.
a 138 catchweight would be a fair compromise.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Postehhh.....
catchweights were originally designed to even the playing field not to give one person an advantage.
usually it's when a smaller fighter fights a bigger one.
say you have a 135 champ and a 140 champ.
a 138 catchweight would be a fair compromise.
and i think with your example, the 135lb fighter wants to challenge a 140lb fighter then the limit should be 140lbs. no point in having divisions if catchweights are used.
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Originally posted by shade darkar View Posti see what you are saying but in general its only used to give an advantage to pac for example with cotto and margarito.
and i think with your example, the 135lb fighter wants to challenge a 140lb fighter then the limit should be 140lbs. no point in having divisions if catchweights are used.
cotto looked good until he started getting caught. i didn't think it was a disadvantage in the 1st round when he landed a jab and it practically moved pacquiao.
bigger fighters have a natural advantage. is making them come down a few pounds an advantage for the smaller man or just lessen the advantage of the bigger man?
when pavlik fought hopkins at 170 did he have the advantage because hopkins was a 175 fighter?
it works both ways.
catchweight agreements are between the fighters.
it doesn't have to be at 154 to be a super welterweight fight.
anything above 147 and below 155 is a super welterweight fight.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Postdid pac really gain advantage against cotto?
cotto looked good until he started getting caught. i didn't think it was a disadvantage in the 1st round when he landed a jab and it practically moved pacquiao.
bigger fighters have a natural advantage. is making them come down a few pounds an advantage for the smaller man or just lessen the advantage of the bigger man?
when pavlik fought hopkins at 170 did he have the advantage because hopkins was a 175 fighter?
it works both ways.
catchweight agreements are between the fighters.
it doesn't have to be at 154 to be a super welterweight fight.
anything above 147 and below 155 is a super welterweight fight.
yes i suppose it can work both ways.
and your right, super weltwerweight is above 147 and below 155, its not above 147 and below 150 if you see what i mean!
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