Is it fair for a 6'3 tall man to fight a 5'6 man because they're the same weight?

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  • yeykax
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    #151
    It's fair because they would had made a height and weight division instead of just weight.If that was the case Tyson would had fought at middleweight or something because everyone he faced was taller than him!!!

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #152
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      I don't think its unfair but I do think its ridiculous when a 6ft 3in man who could easily fight middleweight or supermiddleweight is called the most avoided man in boxing but spends his time calling out guys who naturally could be fighting in weight classes 3 divisions lower than the one he is currently fighting in.

      Why doesn't Paul Williams just call out Juan Manuel Marquez or when he was alive Edwin Valero while he's at it. I know! He Could fight Nonito Donair at a catch weight!

      Not to mention the same fighter could be fighting for the middleweight title against a guy who is a lot closer to his size but instead instead would rather challange midgets.
      Midgets doesn't matter? Your post makes no sense. He's not asking for catchweights and he's calling out people in weight divisions he fights in. They are WEIGHT DIVISIONS

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      • pistol whip
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        #153
        Originally posted by Walt Liquor
        Midgets doesn't matter? Your post makes no sense. He's not asking for catchweights and he's calling out people in weight divisions he fights in. They are WEIGHT DIVISIONS
        And thats fine I specifically said it's fair! But you can't deny that he is purposley fighting in those divisions because he holds tremendous hight and reach advantages yet when he could fight some one closer to his size it becomes the most difficult fight in the world to make.

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        • Allucard
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          #154
          Originally posted by Johnny Drama
          Johnny Drama doesn't think so, Do YOU think it's fair?
          How about if they are both heavyweights and as such, don't even have to be the same weight or close?
          No one seems to have a problem to where it really is a problem and still we can't do nothing about so yeah it's pretty fair for PWilliams to want to fight Pacquiao and the rest of them.

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          • Calilloyd
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            #155
            Originally posted by makaveli87
            I'd watch who you're calling ******ed. "no different" There's a big difference between what you just said there buddy. One is god given the other is not. If Pacquiao sat on his ass all day as a kid to current day he wouldn't be fast. If Williams did the same he would still be 6'3 with his massive reach. If Mosley never fought a round in his life his chin would be ****.

            The last sentence of your posts exemplifies why you think it is completely fair and not the physical mismatch that it is. Take off your goggles.
            Going by your ridiculous logic the Wlad Klitschko-Eddie Chambers fight never should have been made. Or Chris Byrd -Vitali.Tyson should have never fought Tucker and Lewis. Duran should have never fought Hearns or Barkley. Qawi and Spinks should have never tried to unify the championship. Whitaker should have avoided Hurtodo and JC Vasquez. I'm amazed at how people who are supposed to be boxing fans believe in this type of ******ity.

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            • pistol whip
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              #156
              Originally posted by Calilloyd
              Going by your ridiculous logic the Wlad Klitschko-Eddie Chambers fight never should have been made. Or Chris Byrd -Vitali.Tyson should have never fought Tucker and Lewis. Duran should have never fought Hearns or Barkley. Qawi and Spinks should have never tried to unify the championship. Whitaker should have avoided Hurtodo and JC Vasquez. I'm amazed at how people who are supposed to be boxing fans believe in this type of ******ity.
              Are we really comparing Heavyweights to Welterweights now in order to discourage a freakish man from fighting other fighters that are actually his size?

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              • makaveli87
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                #157
                Originally posted by Calilloyd
                Going by your ridiculous logic the Wlad Klitschko-Eddie Chambers fight never should have been made. Or Chris Byrd -Vitali.Tyson should have never fought Tucker and Lewis. Duran should have never fought Hearns or Barkley. Qawi and Spinks should have never tried to unify the championship. Whitaker should have avoided Hurtodo and JC Vasquez. I'm amazed at how people who are supposed to be boxing fans believe in this type of ******ity.
                Yo, I'm talking about fairness here. If they fight, great, it'll be and interesting one. It's good style match up. But understand just because you are in the same division does not mean every fight you take is an even one. And when the differences are this apparent, one can see there is a clear advantage.

                When one possesses such an advantage, things are not even. When things are not even, fairness cannot be had.


                If people don't understand this I don't know what else I can say.

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                • THE REED
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by makaveli87
                  Yo, I'm talking about fairness here. If they fight, great, it'll be and interesting one. It's good style match up. But understand just because you are in the same division does not mean every fight you take is an even one. And when the differences are this apparent, one can see there is a clear advantage.

                  When one possesses such an advantage, things are not even. When things are not even, fairness cannot be had.


                  If people don't understand this I don't know what else I can say.
                  So Paul Williams holds a height and reach advantage over Pac.

                  Does Pac hold NO advantage over Williams?

                  Or is Height and Reach the be all end all to advantags in boxing?

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                  • Marcov
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                    #159
                    Ever see Dwight Muhammad Qawi fight? It was fair.

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                    • Calilloyd
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      Are we really comparing Heavyweights to Welterweights now in order to discourage a freakish man from fighting other fighters that are actually his size?
                      What's the difference? If the issue is height and reach...what's the difference? If anything the heavyweight situation is even more ofa a disadvantage because some of those fighters are outweighed by 40-100 pounds. And again you have a false perception that height=weight. If that's the case Mike Tyson should have been a middleweight. You're assuming that because Paul Williams is 6-3 that he should be fighting at 175. That's ****** logic when the guy weighed in 3 pounds under the middleweight limit in his last middleweight fight. Check out the tale of tape for Holyfield Valuev or Ruiz Valuev. Height alone doesn't have any barring on talent. The way some of you think, I guess it was unfair for Diego Corrales to fight at 130.
                      Last edited by Calilloyd; 07-23-2010, 02:17 PM.

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