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  • #61
    Originally posted by crold1 View Post
    I loved the skill set, the road warrior approach...if he hadn't hurt his knee and blown up, who knows? He gave Cab a squab coming in cold at 22
    You know who I am very high on right now? Anselmo Moreno, I see a little Whitaker in him... But, again I am very high on him I think he is the best bantamweight right now in a very deep division IMO. I think if this time he beats Cermeno convincingly I would put him on my list.

    I am also very high on Roman Gonzalez. When he beat Niida a couple years ago. I thought by now he would be in my P4P list. But, his opponents since has been ehh, and now becoming very inactive. i don't know what is up with they guy. He is driving me crazy right now.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
      You know who I am very high on right now? Anselmo Moreno, I see a little Whitaker in him... But, again I am very high on him I think he is the best bantamweight right now in a very deep division IMO. I think if this time he beats Cermeno convincingly I would put him on my list.

      I am also very high on Roman Gonzalez. When he beat Niida a couple years ago. I thought by now he would be in my P4P list. But, his opponents since has been ehh, and now becoming very inactive. i don't know what is up with they guy. He is driving me crazy right now.
      I see the same in Moreno

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      • #63
        Originally posted by crold1 View Post
        I see the same in Moreno
        Yea, I think he is the most underrated fighter right now... Such a skilled fighter but doesn't get talked about that much. Maybe because nobody see's him on a premium network here in the states.

        I remember everybody was saying that Hasegawa and now Montie was/is the king of the division. But, nah can't say that with Moreno still in the division. But, that is another example of how underrated he is IMO.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by RimmyDelicious View Post
          Cliff appears to be suffering a debilitating case of white guilt, unfortunately.
          Being white seems to be why so many of the posters want to overrate Eastern European fighters but I don't think Cliff factor race into his picks. lol

          The Klitschkos don't have a good enough skillset to belong on a top 10 list. But Adamek and Lucian Bute do, a good argument could be made for including them.

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          • #65
            Awful list. Cliff Rold is a complete moron, just another pathetic Klitschko hater.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              Being white seems to be why so many of the posters want to overrate Eastern European fighters but I don't think Cliff factor race into his picks. lol

              The Klitschkos don't have a good enough skillset to belong on a top 10 list. But Adamek and Lucian Bute do, a good argument could be made for including them.
              The whole point of the update was why neither Ward or Bute has quite hit the top ten and why I think one of them will be positioned to bump in sooner than later. Ward has better foes lined up so his road is smoother. Race/ethnicity/culture is NOT a factor anymore now than it was when guys like Hatton, Tszyu, Calzaghe, Kessler (when he was undefeated) were on the list.

              It's just one guys take. There are more than ten guys who can be there. The day there are ten CLEAR guys and the rest of the sport is eons behind, the day everyone agrees with any of these purely speculative debates, will be a sad day because it will mean the sports talent pool is too shallow.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Korobov View Post
                Awful list. Cliff Rold is a complete moron, just another pathetic Klitschko hater.
                Who is this alt?

                If Cliff is a moron WTF does that make you?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  You know who I am very high on right now? Anselmo Moreno, I see a little Whitaker in him... But, again I am very high on him I think he is the best bantamweight right now in a very deep division IMO. I think if this time he beats Cermeno convincingly I would put him on my list.

                  I am also very high on Roman Gonzalez. When he beat Niida a couple years ago. I thought by now he would be in my P4P list. But, his opponents since has been ehh, and now becoming very inactive. i don't know what is up with they guy. He is driving me crazy right now.
                  Jro. Where do you get the chance to see the lesser known fighters. I can't seem to catch any of them on TV. And fighters like Anselmo don't really get any mention around here. I'm the type who watches any and every fight I can get my hands on and would like to be able to see the fighter that you've mentioned such as Moreno and Gonzalez. I've only seen Roman on FNF I think, either way I haven't seen much of him and would like to see more.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly! View Post
                    Jro. Where do you get the chance to see the lesser known fighters. I can't seem to catch any of them on TV. And fighters like Anselmo don't really get any mention around here. I'm the type who watches any and every fight I can get my hands on and would like to be able to see the fighter that you've mentioned such as Moreno and Gonzalez. I've only seen Roman on FNF I think, either way I haven't seen much of him and would like to see more.
                    In regards to Moreno, there are some on youtube and some in the trading block. The quality ranges from fair to good. For others you have to be a member at certain boxing video sites. They are usually of excellent quality though. Moreno is poorly managed though. He's defended his belt six times, four of which came on foreign soil, and it's not like he's a Mexican fighter signed to GBP or TR and is fighting in the US.

                    Gonzalez videos are basically the same as Moreno. He's fought on Mexican and Japanese TV from the videos that I've seen.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Rijkaard View Post
                      In regards to Moreno, there are some on youtube and some in the trading block. The quality ranges from fair to good. For others you have to be a member at certain boxing video sites. They are usually of excellent quality though. Moreno is poorly managed though. He's defended his belt six times, four of which came on foreign soil, and it's not like he's a Mexican fighter signed to GBP or TR and is fighting in the US.

                      Gonzalez videos are basically the same as Moreno. He's fought on Mexican and Japanese TV from the videos that I've seen.
                      Do you know of any of these Boxing video sites off hand? I'm a HUGE Boxing fan and would love to see some of these fights if at all possible.

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