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Wow, Sergio all the way up at number 5?
I definitely believe Andre Ward should be in there at 10. I can understand waiting to see if he beats Dirrell though.
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Paul Williams doesnt deserve top 10 imo let alone top 3. Cintron was whoopin his ass till he tripped out of the ring
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PBF Last 5: SSM, JMM, Hatton, ODLH, Baldomir
Pac last 5: Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, ODLH, Diaz
Now really who is facing the better opposition? The versions of ODLH and Hatton Floyd fought were much better than the ones Manny fought. I don't even think that's up for dispute at this point. So let's cross those two off the list. Historically SSM is greater than Cotto-----> anyone care to argue??. Cotto beat SSM in a close fight, however Pac fought Cotto after he was annihilated by Margo and was in a tough fight with Clottey. Floyd fought Shane after he destroyed Margarito. Baldomir far greater than Diaz and he was lineal champ. Floyd schooled JMM.
Looking at "when" and "who"
ODLH & Hatton (PBF) > ODLH & Hatton (PAC)
SSM > or = to Cotto
Baldmoir and JMM = to Clottey & Diaz
So in reality Floyd's last 5 have been better than Manny's all things considered.
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P4p rankings is always debateable and highly subjective. I feel there is some definete flaws with this piece. How can Paul Williams be rated as high as no. 3? He has one good win and that's Martinez and that was controversial at best. The win over Winky is way overrated as he was coming of a lenghty layoff and fighting at an advanced age.
Also Dawson is debateable.Wins over 40 year olds doesn't cut it me. His best win is Adamek and that is some time back.
To me personally I have an issue with Rold ranking Dirrell above Kessler in the p4p rankings. How can he be over Kessler? That's terrible rankings. Kessler has a long string of waaayyy better wins than Dirrell and he beat the man who beat Dirrell. Dirrell has only a single win over a world class guy and that's AA and the latters resumé at 168 is clearly below that of Froch.
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Paul Williams should be ranked highly. He has good wins all the way up from 147 pounds (Antonio Margarito) to 154 lbs (Verno Phillips) to 160 lbs (Sergio Martinez.)
This is a P4P list after all, isn't it?Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 07-02-2010, 05:02 AM.
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