Prime De La Hoya would have BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Did Cotto win any of those rounds that Pac looked average in? Like Daggum said is Oscar going to fight the way he fought Tito in the last 4 rounds? If so Pac wins easy since Oscar won't do **** just like how Cotto didn't do anything in those rounds.

    And, just overall technique and purely skill and I am talking about overall JMM>Oscar.

    IMO those are two bad comparisons.
    Of course not, Oscar would instead be throwing combinations. Lets not act like Pacquiao is as threatening as Trinidad. What I saw was Pacquiao's inability to cut off the ring. Also, we all know that at some point Oscar's left hook is going to land.

    Marquez > Oscar? Hell fucking no.

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    • letsgobrady
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      #42
      oscar barely threw punches in the middle of the ring a young oscar would of not been so worried to let his hands go and that would of gave counter punchin oppertunities to floyd that oscar really did give floyd in their fight, so to me either way floyd would have won

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      • jrosales13
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        #43
        Originally posted by M.I.C.
        Prime De La Hoya could barely beat an old Pernell, lost to Mosley, embarassed by Quartey, F this thread, prime oscar would be an underdog vs Floyd just like a prime Pacquiao is.
        Or just like a prime Floyd was an underdog against Corrales... You make the ******est arguments ever. And, I wouldn't be surprised if an undefeated Oscar would been the favorite over Floyd. Since Oscar really popular at the time, a lot of hype around him, that a lot of fans would of better on him. That is what odds is. Who gives a **** about odds in the fight? That proves really nothing.

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          #44
          [QUOTE=Dominicano Soy!;8659827]Of course not, Oscar would instead be throwing combinations. Lets not act like Pacquiao is as threatening as Trinidad. What I saw was Pacquiao's inability to cut off the ring. Also, we all know that at some point Oscar's left hook is going to land.

          Marquez > Oscar? Hell fucking yeah.[/QUOTE]


          there I fixed it for you...


          Marquez beat all of his competition, as he moved up in weight. Most of his losses are questionable besides the Floyd loss, and the Pac one's in my opinion. The man won most of his big fights, whereas Oscar lost most of his big fights

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            #45
            Originally posted by Timmy Chans
            I honestly can't see how anyone can use the latter rounds of the Cotto fight against Manny. I have never seen that type of mercy shown on a fighter and it almost seemed like Manny felt sorry for Miguel in the latter part of that fight. When he looked at the ref, and also the part where he just stopped in the center of the ring while miguel ran for no reason had to be the most embarrassed I have ever felt for a fighter.
            he stopped because he couldn't catch miguel yet manny supposedly has this incredible foot speed and foot work.manny's footwork is the most overrated thing in boxing right now

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              #46
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
              Of course not, Oscar would instead be throwing combinations. Lets not act like Pacquiao is as threatening as Trinidad. What I saw was Pacquiao's inability to cut off the ring. Also, we all know that at some point Oscar's left hook is going to land.

              Marquez > Oscar? Hell fucking no.
              Pac ain't as threatening as Tito but Tito is not a southpaw no is he? And, how good did Oscar look against them? Nor was Tito as fast or used the footwork of Pac...

              Different styles.... And, what if Oscar left hook land and didn't drop Pac? Then what? How would Oscar do late in the fight?

              To even think that somehow Oscar>JMM in terms of skills is pure idiotic. Besides Oscar speed and footwork. What else did a prime Oscar do better than a prime JMM?

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                #47
                prime delahoya has a chance against anyone

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Timmy Chans
                  Honestly I can't see why you would use the late rounds of the Cotto vs Pacquiao fight as a gauge. Not to flame, but it was clear as night and day that Manny felt sorry for Miguel and took it easy on him. I really stop judging that fight after the second knockdown. I saw everything after that as Manny displaying mercy on a guy he liked and came to respect.

                  As far as the Marquez fight, Manny did not get out boxed in the second fight. You can make a case for the first one, but how can you say a person is outbox, when everyone who saw that fight says it was a close fight (regardless of who they felt won) that came down to a round or two difference in either guys favor.

                  Again this version of Manny that has been dominated the WW division beats any version of Oscar, but hey this is just my opinion.
                  How about when Solis started using the ring? This wasn't the 1st time Pacquiao's inability to cut off the ring has showed. Also what was all that; standing in the middle of the ring and taunting Cotto to come in about? Be real now. Oscar's overall size and athleticism would enable him to outbox Pacquiao; keep him at the very end. What Marquez didn't have was the legs to get out of range once he got off, and we all know a prime Oscar has those.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                    How about when Solis started using the ring? This wasn't the 1st time Pacquiao's inability to cut off the ring has showed. Also what was all that; standing in the middle of the ring and taunting Cotto to come in about? Be real now. Oscar's overall size and athleticism would enable him to outbox Pacquiao; keep him at the very end. What Marquez didn't have was the legs to get out of range once he got off, and we all know a prime Oscar has those.
                    JMM counterpunching ability, punching technique, boxing IQ, boxing skill, stamina, accuracy, combination even defense in his prime was so much better than Oscar....

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                      #50
                      Mayweather beats any version of DLH period.

                      Pacquiao ducked a past prime Mosley who offered 90% of the purse to Pac and at a catchweight. This fight would have made him more money then Cotto and Mosley was the legimate WW champion of the world so it would have enhanced his legacy takeing this fight. I could see a prime Molsey takeing Pacs best shots and hurting him leading to an eventual stoppage.

                      Prime DLH would be too big for Pac if allowed to rehydrate and would be able to outbox him with the jab. DLH had a good chin so not as if Pac could hurt him. Prime DLH would be to slick for Pac and would have been avoided by Roach/Arum/Muhammad.

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