Prime De La Hoya would have BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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  • jrosales13
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    #21
    Originally posted by ??? Jr
    Only reason why De La Hoya lost a Split Decision was because Julie Ledderman decided to give the fight to De La Hoya. The same woman who gave the fight to Demetrious Hopkins against Kendoll Holt in a fight Holt clearly one and the other two judges scored it correctly for Holt. Even her dad scored the fight correctly for Floyd.

    It would have been a UD if Julie wasn't payed off by De La Hoya or maybe he did her or something to give him more rounds.
    No Oscar wouldn't do that... Maybe if she had a **** he would... But, since she doesn't Oscar wouldn't touch her. Payed off is more likely scenario.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
      Well Oscar (Overall) was quicker then Mayweather. In his prime he would be able to utilize that due to his footwork. A prime Oscar was very fast on his feet. He was also more consistent with the jab.
      I disagree. He was not quicker or faster then Floyd. He was more consistent with the jab but that doesn't mean it will help him vs a Prime Floyd. It gets timed the same way it did May 5th.

      Oscar was easy to hit. Very easy to hit. Hed still have a hard time landing anything on Mayweather. Floyd wouldnt miss him.

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        #23
        a past his prime de la hoya won 5 rounds against floyd. according to everybody. so i can easily see why many say a prime odlh whoops him. however, devils advocate says floyd didnt turn it on for the first bit and wouldve done the same and had the sdame result against a better version of oscar.
        however, i believe oscars jab could control almost any fighter and definitely would control floyd who did not punch in combinations or have the abilty to stand and trade with oscar as shane mosleyt did when he fought oscar, when he was on ped's (epo).
        my decision: oscar 9-3

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          #24
          Love Oscar, but I dont see it. Maybe back in 2001 at 147? Floyd would have been at an almost "Marquez" level disadvantage disadvantage, haha.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Timmy Chans
            FWIW I also feel no version of Oscar or Shane could beat this version of Manny Pacquiao. Oscar doesn't fair to well against southpaws with speed and neither are very cerebral (Shane or Oscar) IMO. Both Manny(current version) and Floyd beat any version of Shane and Oscar.
            Oh GOD.

            I honestly don't see how the hell Manny Pacquiao beats a prime ODLH. Just look at the late rounds against Cotto, look how ordinary Pacquiao looked chasing Cotto around. Now imagine that being a prime Oscar, Pacquiao would have gotten a bad tattooing. I mean Pacquiao was outboxed by a stationary counter puncher in Marquez. Now imagine a prime Oscar's hand speed, combination punching added in with his superb footwork. How does Pacquiao deal with that?

            Alot of people like to say that Oscar didn't have a right hand. Let me say this, the only (Keyword: Only) thing Oscar's right hand lacked was power. Other then that, he was real accurate with that punch. Stylistically Oscar would be all wrong for him.

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              #26
              Prime Mosley and Oscar beats Pacquiao.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ??? Jr
                Only reason why De La Hoya lost a Split Decision was because Julie Ledderman decided to give the fight to De La Hoya. The same woman who gave the fight to Demetrious Hopkins against Kendoll Holt in a fight Holt clearly won and the other two judges scored it correctly for Holt. Even her dad scored the fight correctly for Floyd.

                It would have been a UD if Julie wasn't payed off by De La Hoya or maybe he did her or something to give him more rounds.
                it wasn't julie lederman. leave the beauty out of this. it was tommy kazmarek.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  I don't know if Pac could beat any version of Shane. Mosley at 135 was pretty damn good. Pac might have struggled with Shane LW version and WW version of 1999-2001. At that time Shane was really good combo puncher and body puncher. He later started looking for the one punch a little bit too much. But, 2001 and earlier version he was a fast, hard hitting combination puncher.

                  It would of been a hell of a fight.
                  I like Shane a lot as a fighter, but I guess we can agree to disagree on this one. I feel both have comparable power/speed at that weight with the edge going to shane as far as power is concerned, and the hand speed and footspeed going to Manny. I think the deciding factor is Manny's timing which I feel is superior to Shane's, but again this is just my opinion on things.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                    Oh GOD.

                    I honestly don't see how the hell Manny Pacquiao beats a prime ODLH. Just look at the late rounds against Cotto, look how ordinary Pacquiao looked chasing Cotto around. Now imagine that being a prime Oscar, Pacquiao would have gotten a bad tattooing. I mean Pacquiao was outboxed by a stationary counter puncher in Marquez. Now imagine a prime Oscar's hand speed, combination punching added in with his superb footwork. How does Pacquiao deal with that?

                    Alot of people like to say that Oscar didn't have a right hand. Let me say this, the only (Keyword: Only) thing Oscar's right hand lacked was power. Other then that, he was real accurate with that punch. Stylistically Oscar would be all wrong for him.
                    cotto wasn't even throwing any punches he would just move away everytime pac got close. would delahoya ever do that? well against trinidad...... i predict after winning round 1 delahoya goes into running mode for the last 11 rounds and claims he was robbed.

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                      #30
                      For people who are saying a prime Oscar would beat Pac. I have a question...

                      What weight-class is a prime Oscar in? What years are Oscar prime?

                      How did Oscar do against southpaws? And, how did Oscar do in big fights when he wasn't fighting ruined or shot to hell fighters.

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