Prime De La Hoya would have BEAT Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[Doctor_Tenma]

honestly bro, and I don't mean any disrespect by this because I like you as a poster, but when someone is constantly running and refusing to fight that will frustrate any fighter. Now if Cotto was using footwork and movement to create angles and boxing on his toes, then I could see this argument. The fact is Cotto was in survival mode and just trying to make it to the bell. Manny was taunting Miguel's ***** @ss survival tatics and that had nothing to do with Manny's inability to cut off the ring.

What went through my head was it was like Manny saying "Come on your a proud warrior/professional boxer, why are you embarrassing yourself in front of millions of people like this?"

Just that I feel there is always an excuse for every weakness Pacquiao has shown. What about his performance against Jorge Solis? Did you see how much of a difference Solis's footwork made? This is why Arum didn't want to put Pacquiao in there against Joan Guzman, because he knew Guzman didn't fall under the typical Pacquiao opponent. Neither did Zahir Raheem. We can all sit here and say "Oh, those weren't quality opponents" but fact is, they presented a style Pacquiao hasn't seen.

This is mainly why I so badly wanted to see Guzman vs. Pacquiao at 130, sadly that didn't happen because apparently, Bob Arum: "No one want's to see Guzman run around the ring". Yes, but wasn't it funny how Arum opt to face Soto, the man Guzman badly outclassed? So in short, Oscar had the movement to frustrate Pacquiao.

[xcaret v3]

What are you on about? Oscar is not good enough to beat Mayweather at any weight. Floyd would beat him at every weight class Oscar fought at INCLUDING 160.

hahaha instead of coming up with an argument about how mayweather would beat oscar you tell me he will beat him at any weight... lmfao.. did you forget he fought a part-time fighter oscar version?


147 version of oscar > 154 version of oscar... your an idiot.

just because oscar "lost" alot of his big fights doesnt mean he will lose one to floyd, you gotta take the level of opposition he fought into consideration you dumbass, those werent judahs and gattis he lost to you ******.

btw: he got robbed against tito and mosley II(mr. steroid guy) and the hokins fight was a mistake in the first place ( would floyd fight hopkins ?) ill just shut up.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Yea I can tell...

To say that Oscar defense is better than a prime JMM is not really watching JMM in his prime. Or just overrated the hell out of Oscar. At best their defense is the same.

And again I've seen enough of Marquez. Where I'm lacking in, is the way way lower weight divisions. That I haven't seen enough of, maybe because I'm lazy or don't know where to start, I don't know. By the way, I'm no longer a fan of Oscar. But in his prime I enjoyed watching him. I was very very young at the time, but **** I have a really good memory. The illegal cable box did us all good

[AllEyesOpen]

DLH at 147 and in his prime, had the ability, skill, and powerful jab to beat both Pac & May. I'm not saying he would, but he had the tools and would have done much better against both.

[Doctor_Tenma]

By the way, Jros, I confronted you many times on "Oscar's pitty pat punches". And again, I'm telling you those aren't pitty pat punches. It may have looked that way against the very durable Mosley, but nonethless, those are hard combinations. I've seen so many times where Oscar's 6-7 punch combination are mostly blocked, but there's that one shot out of that combination that does serious damage. It's no different from Pacquiao.

[Khalid X]

DLH at 147 and in his prime, had the ability, skill, and powerful jab to beat both Pac & May. I'm not saying he would, but he had the tools and would have done much better against both.

I agree and I feel they both would be close fights. No blow outs or stoppages in either fight. I have both Floyd and Manny wining 7-5 type decisions over Oscar.

[Khalid X]

Just that I feel there is always an excuse for every weakness Pacquiao has shown. What about his performance against Jorge Solis? Did you see how much of a difference Solis's footwork made? This is why Arum didn't want to put Pacquiao in there against Joan Guzman, because he knew Guzman didn't fall under the typical Pacquiao opponent. Neither did Zahir Raheem. We can all sit here and say "Oh, those weren't quality opponents" but fact is, they presented a style Pacquiao hasn't seen.

This is mainly why I so badly wanted to see Guzman vs. Pacquiao at 130, sadly that didn't happen because apparently, Bob Arum: "No one want's to see Guzman run around the ring". Yes, but wasn't it funny how Arum opt to face Soto, the man Guzman badly outclassed? So in short, Oscar had the movement to frustrate Pacquiao.

I can see your point of view on this and I agree with some of your points here. Manny is one of my favorite fighters so maybe it's my own biased opinion that has me picking this version of Manny over a prime Oscar.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Every weight class Oscar fought in He would lose to Floyd.

130- Floyd wins.
135- Floyd wins.
140- Floyd wins.
147- Floyd wins.
154- Floyd wins.
160-Floyd wins.

[Cherry Picker]

Every weight class Oscar fought in He would lose to Floyd.

130- Floyd wins.
135- Floyd wins.
140- Floyd wins.
147- Floyd wins.
154- Floyd wins.
160-Floyd wins.

Is there any other boxer that you like, or do you furiously ********** over Floyd 24/7?

[xcaret v3]

Every weight class Oscar fought in He would lose to Floyd.

130- Floyd wins.
135- Floyd wins.
140- Floyd wins.
147- Floyd wins.
154- Floyd wins.
160-Floyd wins.

floyd beats the klitchskos too