Will pacquiao 7 weight division championship belt ever be broke?

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  • jrosales13
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    #61
    Originally posted by Black Magic
    yeah and to make sure nobody cheats Floyd would put a contract stipulation that none of the boxer can rehydrate over 155 and 161 on fight night by paying another fine if they do.

    genius
    I seriously doubt Floyd would stoop that low.

    Anyways where did you come up with this theory?

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #62
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      At that time Vivian Harris was better and more highly ranked then Corley, Bruseles, and Gatti was at 140. And, Harris had the WBA 140 pound title. Gatti was the bigger name so that is understandable. However, fighting Bruseles over Harris while you're Harris mandatory is not understandable. I don't care how anybody else would try to spin it.

      At 147, Baldomir was the lineal champ. So fighting him is understandable. However, Margarito was the best WW at that and the longest reigning WW champ at that time.

      At 154, at that time Dzinziruk and Spinks were better than that version of Oscar. But, Oscar was the bigger name and more money so again that is understandable.

      The point is that at 140-154 he didn't fight the best champ until he fought Shane in May.
      And that isn't the point. You just basically said all was understandable, pretty much except Burseles which was an eliminator match.

      Gatti was to boost his exposure which it did, Baldomir was lineal champ and I do give Mayweather **** for not fighting Marg, at 154 he fought Oscar for the cash and exposure. He was going to fight Spinks too but Spinks decided to take on his mandatory instead of fighting Floyd.

      Mayweather considered moving up in weight again to fight junior middleweight champion Cory Spinks, but because of negative publicity and Spinks' impending mandatory defense of his title, he finally decided to face WBC and The Ring welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir on November 4, 2006 in Las Vegas.[source]

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      • wizard king
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        #63
        hell yeah pac record is going to be broken. more and more boxers go pro before 18 so its not going to a big deal to win that many bull **** belts.

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        • pasawayako
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          #64
          Originally posted by slickfox
          let me just explain this to you, while pacquiao was getting his arse knocked the f out as a professional and looking like a bum mayweather was sharpening his skills in the amateurs. He could have easily done the same thing and turned pro at 18 and gotten 2 belts at those low weight divisons with ease and he wouldnt have gotten knocked out like your idol pac. If pac was undefeated and didnt get knocked out on his way to the lower weight titles I would say that its a really impressive feat and probably wont be repeated but he got rocked and knocked out so im not even impressed with his first 2 belts....they came at a cost of 2 knockouts because he wasnt ready yet
          If floyd fought in a professional when he was 16 years old i don't even think he could become what he is today, floyd was carefully brought up and manage. Pac in the age of 16 was already in a professional fights and become a lineal champion in the age of 19 years old while floyd was still the amateur and still learning and fighting bums so that he will be ready in a professional fights.

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            #65
            Originally posted by pasawayako
            Hatton(in 140 lbs), cotto(140-147), mosley(in 154), margarito,p.will(147-154) instead he fought baldomir, judah, dela hoya( i understand about dela hoya because it was the biggest money he could get) and hatton in a weight class where collazo almost put him in the canvass.

            Hatton didn't exist at 140(not in the literal sense). Cotto had a promoter who didn't want to do business with Floyd what-so-ever. Mosley didn't want to fight Floyd, Floyd returned the favor when Mosley dropped to ESPN shows. Margarito is the only one I give him **** for. PWill wasn't relevant at the time. Both of which Marg and PWill wasn't at 154.

            He fought Baldomir for the lineal title.
            Judah for the paper belts.
            He fought Hatton at 147 as Hatton was to fight for Floyd's belts. Not the other way around. So it's reasonable.

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            • Roy Keane
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              #66
              Originally posted by -Top Rank-
              7 = 168
              8 = 175

              I highly doubt he even wins a 6th one at 160.
              what so pacquiao can fight strum for a belt at 160 and be immortal but floyd has to be martinez ? floyd could easily beat strum for his 6th belt but he knows beating someone like strum means **** all if martinez is the boss.

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                #67
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                And that isn't the point. You just basically said all was understandable, pretty much except Burseles which was an eliminator match.

                Gatti was to boost his exposure which it did, Baldomir was lineal champ and I do give Mayweather **** for not fighting Marg, at 154 he fought Oscar for the cash and exposure. He was going to fight Spinks too but Spinks decided to take on his mandatory instead of fighting Floyd.
                So why he didn't fight the best was not the point? Then what was the point of your question?

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                • The_Demon
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                  #68
                  ye it could well happen

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                  • wizard king
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pasawayako
                    If floyd fought in a professional when he was 16 years old i don't even think he could become what he is today, floyd was carefully brought up and manage. Pac in the age of 16 was already in a professional fights and become a lineal champion in the age of 19 years old while floyd was still the amateur and still learning and fighting bums so that he will be ready in a professional fights.
                    pact**** this the only reason why pac has the belts he has cause he started so early and stuck with it.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      At that time Vivian Harris was better and more highly ranked then Corley, Bruseles, and Gatti was at 140. And, Harris had the WBA 140 pound title. Gatti was the bigger name so that is understandable. However, fighting Bruseles over Harris while you're Harris mandatory is not understandable. I don't care how anybody else would try to spin it.

                      At 147, Baldomir was the lineal champ. So fighting him is understandable. However, Margarito was the best WW at that and the longest reigning WW champ at that time.

                      At 154, at that time Dzinziruk and Spinks were better than that version of Oscar. But, Oscar was the bigger name and more money so again that is understandable.

                      The point is that at 140-154 he didn't fight the best champ until he fought Shane in May.
                      You really do underrate Oscar. Oscar would have beat those 2.

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