Will pacquiao 7 weight division championship belt ever be broke?

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  • El Jesus
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    #91
    Originally posted by pasawayako
    Since you know everything about floyd, could you please enlighten me what floyd had done in his amateur career?

    Floyd was carefully managed that's the reason why he wasn't a professional in those early years compared to pac who was already a professional and a lineal champion in the age of 19.
    floyds amatuer career is well documented and for your information, kids here cant turn pro in their teens unless they leave the country like juan diaz. you cant turn pro until you are 18, you basically have to have an amatuer career because you cant do much else.

    carefully managed my ass, you turn amatuer because its apart of the system to turn pro here in the united states. im not going to hate on floyd because he grew up in a developed country.

    Floyds amatuer career was ****ing stellar, winning countless reigonal/national/world amatuer titles and medaling at the olympics.

    You dont "manage" an amatuer career genius.

    Floyd had a stellar amatuer run and because amatuer accomplishments dont get much love, floyd also started at 106 at 16 just the same and moved up. i think he lost to Augie Sanchez and i forgot who else, i think he only had like 6 or 8 losses in over 100 fights.

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    • Easy-E
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      #92
      Maybe, but I am one to question the legitimacy of those 7 belts.

      In two instances he held the ring belt, which when he had it (at 126 at least) it was less than legitimate and was not held in the esteem it is currently.

      It was a distinction given by a magazine, essentially.

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      • F l i c k e r
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        #93
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        As for the thread, Pacquiao could easily be a 9 division champion and I do mean that. He could easily take care of Spinks/ Foreman vs. Cotto winner or a weak MW titlests. The main issue I have here is that people want Pacquiao to make history facing low level opposition. A win over Paul Williams would do more for his legacy then any of these weak titlests at 154/160. How come I don't hear anyone mention Pacquiao vs. Martinez?

        Size disadvantage and Martinez is slick. If it were Pavlik, there would be more chatter about how Pacquiao could possibly handle the bigger man.

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        • Zerwas1
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          #94
          Some tall minimum weight boxer could go up from 105 to 130. At fight night they are propably already weighting 115 at minimumweight. So that's only 15+pounds to be competetive.

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            #95
            Originally posted by pasawayako
            Since you know everything about floyd, could you please enlighten me what floyd had done in his amateur career?

            Floyd was carefully managed that's the reason why he wasn't a professional in those early years compared to pac who was already a professional and a lineal champion in the age of 19.
            Floyd was an outstanding amateur. Had amazing record. I don't really remember his exact record but I think it was like 84-6. One of those 6 losses was against Auggie Sanchez by a very close margin I think it was a 1 point decision if my memory serves me right. Then he went on to beat Sanchez by wide margin not even close twice.

            And, another lost came in the Olympics. And, that was very disputable lost. Floyd probably deserved the decision. But, Floyd still won a medal.

            He fought the best international fighters in the World. had a great record against the best.

            And, as pro like El Jesus said he got thrown to the wolves early. Became a lineal champ a little bit after turning pro. Had a hell of a resume at 130.

            So I don't see where you're coming from with Floyd being carefully managed early in his career.

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              #96
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r
              Size disadvantage and Martinez is slick. If it were Pavlik, there would be more chatter about how Pacquiao could possibly handle the bigger man.
              I know but that is exactly why this would be an interesting matchup; the challenge.

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                #97
                Originally posted by wizard king
                yes moron that is the only reason he stuck with it and if many atg's from the past started at the same age as pac they would have probly got just as many belts or more. you are a complet idioit if you dont think duran started at age 16 he would have not gotten that many belts then you are really on that crack
                Wait so now you telling me that Duran started at the age of 16? From the post above it doesn't indicated that he started at the age of 16. Did you had to go look it up?

                Originally posted by wizard king
                yes you are an idiot on crack and i never said any of them didt start at that age but how many started at fly weight? duran 16 at super feather weight and if he would have started at fly weight he would have won just as many belts as pac.
                Ohhhhhh... Now you have to turn 16 at Flyweight? OK...

                BTW what weight-class did Freddie Steele started at? And, how old was he when he started? And, how many titles does he have?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by El Jesus
                  floyds amatuer career is well documented and for your information, kids here cant turn pro in their teens unless they leave the country like juan diaz. you cant turn pro until you are 18, you basically have to have an amatuer career because you cant do much else.

                  carefully managed my ass, you turn amatuer because its apart of the system to turn pro here in the united states. im not going to hate on floyd because he grew up in a developed country.

                  Floyds amatuer career was ****ing stellar, winning countless reigonal/national/world amatuer titles and medaling at the olympics.

                  You dont "manage" an amatuer career genius.

                  Floyd had a stellar amatuer run and because amatuer accomplishments dont get much love, floyd also started at 106 at 16 just the same and moved up. i think he lost to Augie Sanchez and i forgot who else, i think he only had like 6 or 8 losses in over 100 fights.
                  Did he have over 100 fights? I didn't know he reach triple digits. For some reason I thought it was less.

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                  • wizard king
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Wait so now you telling me that Duran started at the age of 16? From the post above it doesn't indicated that he started at the age of 16. Did you had to go look it up?



                    Ohhhhhh... Now you have to turn 16 at Flyweight? OK...

                    BTW what weight-class did Freddie Steele started at? And, how old was he when he started? And, how many titles does he have?
                    i never said you have to start at 16 dip**** and who gives a **** about steele did you just look him up dip****

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Easy-E
                      Maybe, but I am one to question the legitimacy of those 7 belts.

                      In two instances he held the ring belt, which when he had it (at 126 at least) it was less than legitimate and was not held in the esteem it is currently.

                      It was a distinction given by a magazine, essentially.
                      The Ring has been recognizing champions longer than any of the major belts.

                      Also he won the lineal titles at 126. Lineal championships which is different from the Ring sometimes. Has always been the most legitimate title claim.

                      And, lets not forget why Pac didn't win the WBC and IBF title like he should have.

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