Where Do You Rank Roy Jones All Time?

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  • JUYJUY
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    #31
    Originally posted by Tarver is my dad
    you do not know anything about boxing.
    Oh yes I do.

    Roy Jones was not the best at 160 when he was at 160. Julian Jackson and Gerald McClellan were the best 160 fighters and WBC champions when Jones Jr was in that division. Jones Jr avoided them. (Hopkins wasn't even ranked in the top five at 160 when Jones Jr fought him, he was nothing).

    Jones Jr defended his IBF 168 title five times - three of which weren't even ranked in the top 10 at 168 at the time and another was just a 'blown-up' Lightweight. Jones Jr avoided the fellow top five World Champions (Benn, Eubank, Collins, Liles).

    Dariusz Michalczewski was the Lineal Champion at 175, it was not Roy Jones. Jones Jr avoided Dariusz for a good 6-7 years and never did get it on with him. Jones Jr sucks.

    Michael Nunn was constantly Jones Jr's mandatory in the mid-to-late 90's, Jones Jr did not fight him.

    Even at HW, he didn't fight the best (Lewis, Tyson, etc).

    The myth of Roy Jones lives on.. but he was a disgrace to boxing. Do you know that he wasn't ranked near the top 10 lb4lb before he fought Toney, but when he beat the out-of-shape and out-of-form Toney he undeservedly jumped straight into the #1 lb4lb spot (because Toney was rated #1 lb4lb at the time). But Toney was weighing 220lbs just 6 weeks prior to the Jones Jr fight and had to get down to 168! So Toney he was weight-drained and in no fit state to fight. Jones Jr remained #1 lb4lb for 10 years, conning you gullable fools by beating up mediocre opposition.. picking his opponents very carefully.

    He was a great businessman, not a great boxer.

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    • Tarver is my dad
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      #32
      Originally posted by Urban Predator
      From a technical standpoint, Roid was never a good boxer.

      He ignored all the basic fundamentals but got away with it because of his superhuman reflexes.

      Those reflexes slowed with age and it was only a matter of time before someone took advantage.

      I don't rate him that highly overall
      , mainly because of the question marks over some shady political dealings and hand picking of opponents.

      Just my two cents.
      I agree with everything you said except the highlighted lines. Lke it or not, Roy was one of the best that ever done it.

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      • JUYJUY
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        #33
        Originally posted by Urban Predator
        From a technical standpoint, Roid was never a good boxer.

        He ignored all the basic fundamentals
        Agreed, he really wasn't that good and if you took his reflexes away (even 75% of what they were) he wouldn't of done anything in the game at all.

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        • JUYJUY
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          #34
          Jones Jr is one of these guys who just got a lucky break, and became grossly over-rated.

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          • Bad Intentions
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            #35
            Originally posted by JUYJUY
            Agreed, he really wasn't that good and if you took his reflexes away (even 75% of what they were) he wouldn't of done anything in the game at all.
            BLAH BLAH BLAH if you take them away..Why say that..They were there..If you take away Alis Legs he woulda been in a wheel chair...Thats just ******...Like Mgirt said about Floyd what does he have if you take away his speed..Who gives a **** its there..I dont understand when people say that kinda stuff..Wait heres one Take away formans power then what does he have??..LOL ****in Idiots

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            • JUYJUY
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              #36
              Originally posted by Bad Intentions
              BLAH BLAH BLAH if you take them away..Why say that..They were there..If you take away Alis Legs he woulda been in a wheel chair...Thats just ******...Like Mgirt said about Floyd what does he have if you take away his speed..Who gives a **** its there..I dont understand when people say that kinda stuff..Wait heres one Take away formans power then what does he have??..LOL ****in Idiots
              If Foreman's power was at, say, 75% of what it was, he would of still been a world champion boxer. If Jones Jr's reflexes were, say, 75% of what they were, he would of not gone far in the game. I'm sorry, but that's how I see it.

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              • b-rine
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                #37
                Originally posted by JUYJUY
                Agreed, he really wasn't that good and if you took his reflexes away (even 75% of what they were) he wouldn't of done anything in the game at all.
                take away your uncle's pecker and he'd be your aunt.

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                • Bad Intentions
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JUYJUY
                  If Foreman's power was at, say, 75% of what it was, he would of still been a world champion boxer. If Jones Jr's reflexes were, say, 75% of what they were, he would of not gone far in the game. I'm sorry, but that's how I see it.
                  What if What if What if What if...Your still doing it...Who cares what if his reflexes were at 75%..they werent so ur just sayin dumb ****...I was sayin what if formans powerm was gone to be sarcastic..cuz people say what if he had no speed what if what if...The fact of the matter is HE DID!!!!!!!!

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                  • Moon
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                    #39
                    Two things about Roy Jones that made me puke .....

                    1. He fought a mailman part-time boxer, demolished him and then post-fight talked like he had done something special.
                    2. He defeated Ruiz, then actually mentioned this so-called "accomplishment" in the same breath that he mentioned Michael Spinks.

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                    • -Antonio-
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                      #40
                      The fact that he easily beat two hall of famers in Toney and Hopkins puts him pretty high on my list.

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