I think some people miss the point about the Lewis Klitschko fight

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I do see what you mean, your delusions are quite comical.

What are the facts that seem to bother you?

- That Vitali's lost to the two best fighters he's ever faced
- His top 3 wins are against an overweight Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, and Larry Donald
- That his glossy high KO % you like to point out so often is compiled largely of fringe contenders and German club fighters
- That the cut(s) he suffered agaisnt Lennox Lewis were the direct result of Lewis landing 50% of his power punches


I'd say those are the key facts that send you into a girly little huff.

Just like the VK fans should quit using the cut as an excuse you should stop saying that VK fought overweight fighters...that is part of the sport...

a fighter is told when and where too fight...they then prepare accordly...all the VK haters like to point out that Johson and Sanders were overweight...VK should be given just as much credit for the wins regardless of the shape a couple of dip**** professionals showed up in.

Just like LL should be given credit regardless of how he managed to win the fight. Only difference is Sanders and Jophnson never deserve to step into the ring with VK...ever and Vk earned a second crack at LL-this cannot be disputed.

[Bozo_no no]

Just like the VK fans should quit using the cut as an excuse you should stop saying that VK fought overweight fighters...that is part of the sport...

a fighter is told when and where too fight...they then prepare accordly...all the VK haters like to point out that Johson and Sanders were overweight...VK should be given just as much credit for the wins regardless of the shape a couple of dip**** professionals showed up in.

Regardless of their condition, when Kirk Johnson and Corrie Sanders are 2 of the 3 biggest wins of you're career, you're not deserving of the overwhelming hype surrounding you.

[oldgringo]

Name 10 heavyweights with better resumes than Lennox Lewis...I don't see how you can leave him out of your top 10.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Name 10 heavyweights with better resumes than Lennox Lewis...I don't see how you can leave him out of your top 10.

Evander Holyfield, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes...damnit...10? Can't think of a tenth...Liston? Eh I guess Lewis barely makes it.

[Enayze]

I have lewis ranked 9th all time but not in the top 5.

1. Muhamad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. Evander Holyfield
5. Mike Tyson
6. George Foreman
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Rocky Marciano
9. Jack Johnson
10. Floyd Patterson

[Enayze]

WTF u talking about.He fought everyone, it wasnt his fault that Bowe was a *****, that Tyson didnt want to fight him in 96.Again, Lewis ddint dodge anyone.

The bottom line is Mercer wasnt a big money fight.Again Lewis is a top 10 heavyweight, something Vitali has to work on before we hail him as one of the best!

Well you said Mercer wasnt big money. Although Vitali was worth 40 million. That's as much as the Tyson fight if not more. Do you honestly believe Lewis thought he could beat Vitali second time around? It took him 1 year to make up his mind if he could or couldn't, and actions speak louder than words. Why do you still try to defend that Lewis didnt dodge a rematch? Yes he established himself as a great champion, and definately a top ten in my list and many others, but there is no denying that Lewis dodged the Vitali Klitschko rematch.

[oldgringo]

Evander Holyfield, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes...damnit...10? Can't think of a tenth...Liston? Eh I guess Lewis barely makes it.

I'm sorry but 2 wins over an old Jack Dempsey and Tommy Gibbons dont make you a top 10 all-time great heavyweight.


EDIT: In that case ^, why isn't Michael Spinks on the top 10 HW list? He beat a greater top 10 heavy twice who was closer to his prime...

[Enayze]

If every fighter rematched an opponent whom they won a competitive fight against, there's be nothing but rematches.

Holyfield also fought a close fight with Mercer with no rematch, as did Larry Holmes.

A moot point.

The public didnt care for those rematches, nor were they near as dramatic as Klitschko vs Lewis, and everyone knows this.

[Enayze]

Name 10 heavyweights with better resumes than Lennox Lewis...I don't see how you can leave him out of your top 10.

Ali
Holmes
Louis
Holyfield
Tyson
Foreman
Johnson
Dempsey
Burns
Jeffrey
Marciano
Patterson

Ehh all those fighters can be argued with, but I think Lewis definately makes it to the top 10. Spot no.7 on my list.

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1. Muhamad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. Evander Holyfield
5. Mike Tyson
6. George Foreman
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Rocky Marciano
9. Jack Johnson
10. Floyd Patterson

Jack Johnson #9...somebody need to do there heavyweight homework.