I think some people miss the point about the Lewis Klitschko fight

[Brz_Pugilist]

Hey Vdiary, my point is that Vitali needs to fight some of the best.I would love to see him against Rahman.

[hollister]

WTF u talking about.He fought everyone, it wasnt his fault that Bowe was a *****, that Tyson didnt want to fight him in 96.Again, Lewis ddint dodge anyone.

The bottom line is Mercer wasnt a big money fight.Again Lewis is a top 10 heavyweight, something Vitali has to work on before we hail him as one of the best!

I never said that VK was the best, a future hall of famer, or a better champion than Lewis. We're talking about a fighter who's already had his run versus a fighter who still has a few years left to show us how far he can or can't go.
But IMO, telling a fighter that he's not fully recovered because he hasn't seen your doctor, and then retiring when your doctor says the same thing, and the sanctioning bodies want you to fight him again doesn't spell heart of a true champion to me. First, he says the money's the most important, then it's the legacy, then the money again, then when they offer him a ridiculous amount of money to fight, it's the legacy and his health. Whatever...

[Bozo_no no]

i think it's fair to say that lewis was not a risk taker, but that fight wasn't a title fight and lewis probably just thought it wasn't worth the risk again, anyway that's a different matter to the one in this thread

If every fighter rematched an opponent whom they won a competitive fight against, there's be nothing but rematches.

Holyfield also fought a close fight with Mercer with no rematch, as did Larry Holmes.

A moot point.

[Brz_Pugilist]

Hey Hollister,Lewis's heart was too retired as a champion.He wanted to play it safe.


Another thing, Rahman and Lamon Brewster would be good tough opponents for Vitali, i would love to see those matches!

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Hey Hollister,Lewis's heart was too retired as a champion.He wanted to play it safe.


Another thing, Rahman and Lamon Brewster would be good tough opponents for Vitali, i would love to see those matches!

Me too

I think those two are the only real threat to VK right now. If he beats thos two he will gain mucho respect in my eyes.

[scap]

If every fighter rematched an opponent whom they won a competitive fight against, there's be nothing but rematches.

Holyfield also fought a close fight with Mercer with no rematch, as did Larry Holmes.

A moot point.

Gettin of the VK/LL thing for now...dead ****ing horse!

LArry Holmes vs. Ray Mercer was a borefest and there was no reason to see that fight ever again...I lost some money that night by the way.

The Mercer/Lewis fight on the other hand should not be in that same boat...there are many hardcore fans out there as well as memebrs of the media who feel Mercer was the better man that night, hell he even put up 50K after the fight out of his pocket to lobby for a rematch...and it wasn't like Mercer was incredibly well off.

Again Lewis used his head and saw no reason to give a dangerous animal like Mercer a rematch-give Len credit there is that brain of his again keeping himself out of harms way.

The ****ty part is that fight could have easily gone to Mercer and you know damn well that Lennox would have gotten his rematch!

[Torino]

This is outright comical.

It's easy to see that what I point out hurts your feelings so much all you can do is attack me and accuse me of being someone else.

You have vast delusions about Vitali, and when I point out facts (such as his inflated record of KO's, your laughable take on "Luck" in the Lewis fight, his weak overall resume) you get vendictive and spiteful.

Just above you took one sentence out of context in an attempt to save face. Why leave out the rest of that post?

Just earlier you resorted to LYING about something I never said, now you're pulling things out of context.

The bottom line is that there's about 5 of you (with you being the Captian) that have goofy Klitschko avatar pics, who are outright Delusional about the Klitschkos and what they've actually acomplished.

Everytime I read your over hyped inflated bull ****, I will call you on it.

You can continue to be spitefull and sour about it all you want, all it does is underline what a fanatical nut hugger you are.

Hahahahahah!!!!!!! See what I mean by entertaining?

What are those facts again?

[AintGottaClue]

Here's the difference

Lewis defended his title 3 times the year first he was champ
Vitali defended the belt once

Lewis is a top 5 heavyweight of all time
Vitali is a disgrace to heavyweight champions world renowned

thats true but deigo lewis won the belt when he was 27 i beilve, vitali one his belt agaisnt sanders when he was 33-34 i beilve? and he defended it once in december agaisnt williams, its 2005 now and vitali has a serious back injury that could possibly shorten his career, and anyway check both vitali and lewis's records vitali has been more active then lewis has every been and if he had won the title at lewis age he woulda defended it more then lewis did. and lewis is not a ****ign top 5 or 10 heavyweight ever

[Bozo_no no]

Hahahahahah!!!!!!! See what I mean by entertaining?

What are those facts again?

I do see what you mean, your delusions are quite comical.

What are the facts that seem to bother you?

- That Vitali's lost to the two best fighters he's ever faced
- His top 3 wins are against an overweight Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, and Larry Donald
- That his glossy high KO % you like to point out so often is compiled largely of fringe contenders and German club fighters
- That the cut(s) he suffered agaisnt Lennox Lewis were the direct result of Lewis landing 50% of his power punches


I'd say those are the key facts that send you into a girly little huff.

[Bozo_no no]

thats true but deigo lewis won the belt when he was 27 i beilve, vitali one his belt agaisnt sanders when he was 33-34 i beilve? and he defended it once in december agaisnt williams, its 2005 now and vitali has a serious back injury that could possibly shorten his career, and anyway check both vitali and lewis's records vitali has been more active then lewis has every been and if he had won the title at lewis age he woulda defended it more then lewis did. and lewis is not a ****ign top 5 or 10 heavyweight ever

lol, just delusion after delusion.

IF Vitali had fought a live body in his 20's, he may have received a title shot earlier. He didn't. His resume at that point was hilighted by such names as Orlin Norris & Obed Sullivan.

The first class fighter he ever faced was Byrd (who took the fight on ONE weeks notice traveling to Germany to do so) where he quit and lost. He then lost in his shot at the liniar championship agaisnt Lewis.

Since 1st winning a legit title in 2004 (WBC, which he won agaisnt a 38 year old Corrie Sanders) he's defended it once agaisnt fringe contender Danny Williams.

You say Lewis isn't a top 10 all time Heavyweight. By your own Logic, that would put Vitali a million miles away from that group.